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Hypernap is a proper native app and less than a tenth the cost of Paw... http://gethypernap.com/ http://gethypernap.com/ https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/hyper

by doomtop 10y ago

Hypernap is a proper native app and less than a tenth the cost of Paw... http://gethypernap.com/ http://gethypernap.com/ https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/hypernap/id795069997 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/hypernap/id795069997

andyfleming 10y ago
But it isn't as nice and it doesn't have any solution for cloud/team syncing, right?
- doomtop 10y ago
  Commenter mentioned OSX native app being the main thing for them. It is an OSX native app. But no, it's not a good team solution. And I'd agree that Paw is subjectively more "nice", but I'm not sure I'd agree it's 12x more nice... If it were $9.99 instead of $49.99, I would have already purchased it. As it stands, I'm sticking with Hypernap, which gets the job done for my needs.
  - SwellJoe 10y ago
    It doesn't have to be 12x better. It only has to save you $45 worth of time more than a $5 alternative, or $50 more than a free alternative. Most engineers are paid on the order of $30-$150/hour, depending on whether full-time, contractor, level of experience, etc. So, it has to save about 1.5 hours over the alternatives to be worth the price. I don't know if it does that, as I've never used it, and don't use macOS. There are other things it could save instead of or in addition to time: Hassle, maybe it doesn't have any external dependencies or complicated setup; stress, maybe it works reliably while others are buggy and unreliable; etc. Again, I don't know. And, I tend to choose OSS solutions, even when it costs me more time/hassle/stress. But, there's a number of reasons one might choose a more expensive tool that does roughly the same job as lower cost alternatives, and it might be the right economic decision to do so.
developer2 10y ago
Hypernap may be a native app, but it's certainly not beautiful or fully featured. It uses the most basic interface elements thrown together in a messy soup. I have immense respect for people who manage to develop native apps, but when the interface looks like it was implemented as someone's very first experiment in XCode... well, there's a reason you don't pay much. I don't understand why developers throw their arms in the air over pricing. Try out the app; if it has everything you will ever need out of such a tool and it greatly improves your productivity every single day... a one-time $50 payment is nothing. It's the cost of going out for dinner one evening.

by doomtop 10y ago

andyfleming 10y ago

But it isn't as nice and it doesn't have any solution for cloud/team syncing, right?

doomtop 10y ago
Commenter mentioned OSX native app being the main thing for them. It is an OSX native app. But no, it's not a good team solution. And I'd agree that Paw is subjectively more "nice", but I'm not sure I'd agree it's 12x more nice... If it were $9.99 instead of $49.99, I would have already purchased it. As it stands, I'm sticking with Hypernap, which gets the job done for my needs.
- SwellJoe 10y ago
  It doesn't have to be 12x better. It only has to save you $45 worth of time more than a $5 alternative, or $50 more than a free alternative. Most engineers are paid on the order of $30-$150/hour, depending on whether full-time, contractor, level of experience, etc. So, it has to save about 1.5 hours over the alternatives to be worth the price. I don't know if it does that, as I've never used it, and don't use macOS. There are other things it could save instead of or in addition to time: Hassle, maybe it doesn't have any external dependencies or complicated setup; stress, maybe it works reliably while others are buggy and unreliable; etc. Again, I don't know. And, I tend to choose OSS solutions, even when it costs me more time/hassle/stress. But, there's a number of reasons one might choose a more expensive tool that does roughly the same job as lower cost alternatives, and it might be the right economic decision to do so.

developer2 10y ago

Hypernap may be a native app, but it's certainly not beautiful or fully featured. It uses the most basic interface elements thrown together in a messy soup. I have immense respect for people who manage to develop native apps, but when the interface looks like it was implemented as someone's very first experiment in XCode... well, there's a reason you don't pay much. I don't understand why developers throw their arms in the air over pricing. Try out the app; if it has everything you will ever need out of such a tool and it greatly improves your productivity every single day... a one-time $50 payment is nothing. It's the cost of going out for dinner one evening.