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No it's not, it's terrible. These are not stupid software bugs like the wrong icon or colors, these are usually security bugs that can be the beginning of a n

No it's not, it's terrible. These are not stupid software bugs like the wrong icon or colors, these are usually security bugs that can be the beginning of a nightmare for a company. A security consultant will make more than that working for 120days. Don't forget that 120days for normal people is actually 120 business days, or 24 weeks, A bit over 6 months. So would you still $40k for 6months of high specialized work as not being terrible?

AdieuToLogic 10y ago
Don't forget that 120days for normal people is actually 120 business days, or 40 weeks... I believe your math is a bit off there. 120 business days / 5 days per week == 24 weeks So a bit under six months as some months have 5 weeks in them. This would project out to over $80k per annum, but as indicated in the article, attempting to keep this pace up for an entire year would be grueling.
- segmondy 10y ago
  thanks! had a brain fart. that's still terrible, a really good security researcher should be pulling in $150k/yr easy.
  - JabavuAdams 10y ago
    Curious -- can you do that without having to socialize with anyone? I'm not a social reject. Just looking for a period of full and unconstrained immersion. I'm ready to adopt my final form.
  - tptacek 10y ago
    For very good, proven talent, in tight local markets, negotiating for the best job based primarily on compensation and not, for instance, how interesting the targets are, $150k/yr as salary+cash bonus is a reasonable expectation. Plenty of very good security researchers make less, for any of the reasons I just implied and many others. $80k-$90k is roughly the threshold where I'd say that if you're talented and have a track record, you're needlessly underpaid. On the other hand: $150k as consulting returns sounds a little on the low side. At 80% utilization (hard, but possible, to maintain) and a reasonable bill rate, you might expect to gross somewhere north of $250k. For specialist talent, this all goes out the window, of course.
  - pg_is_a_butt 10y ago
    the guy said he actually made $80k, but couldn't disclose the other $40k in the summary... that means that doubling the "just under 6 months" value of $80k, would be over $160k/yr easy. you're an idiot.
JabavuAdams 10y ago
There are non-monetary rewards. To work as a security consultant, you have to be ... a consultant. Being able to sit at home (or wherever), have no boss, no schedule commitments, and no constraints on my dress, no need to be social / politic sounds pretty sweet to me.

AdieuToLogic 10y ago

Don't forget that 120days for normal people is actually 120 business days, or 40 weeks... I believe your math is a bit off there. 120 business days / 5 days per week == 24 weeks So a bit under six months as some months have 5 weeks in them. This would project out to over $80k per annum, but as indicated in the article, attempting to keep this pace up for an entire year would be grueling.

segmondy 10y ago
thanks! had a brain fart. that's still terrible, a really good security researcher should be pulling in $150k/yr easy.
- JabavuAdams 10y ago
  Curious -- can you do that without having to socialize with anyone? I'm not a social reject. Just looking for a period of full and unconstrained immersion. I'm ready to adopt my final form.
- tptacek 10y ago
  For very good, proven talent, in tight local markets, negotiating for the best job based primarily on compensation and not, for instance, how interesting the targets are, $150k/yr as salary+cash bonus is a reasonable expectation. Plenty of very good security researchers make less, for any of the reasons I just implied and many others. $80k-$90k is roughly the threshold where I'd say that if you're talented and have a track record, you're needlessly underpaid. On the other hand: $150k as consulting returns sounds a little on the low side. At 80% utilization (hard, but possible, to maintain) and a reasonable bill rate, you might expect to gross somewhere north of $250k. For specialist talent, this all goes out the window, of course.
- pg_is_a_butt 10y ago
  the guy said he actually made $80k, but couldn't disclose the other $40k in the summary... that means that doubling the "just under 6 months" value of $80k, would be over $160k/yr easy. you're an idiot.

JabavuAdams 10y ago

There are non-monetary rewards. To work as a security consultant, you have to be ... a consultant. Being able to sit at home (or wherever), have no boss, no schedule commitments, and no constraints on my dress, no need to be social / politic sounds pretty sweet to me.