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> Well you are in the significant minority. Do you have evidence to back that up?

by hx87 10y ago

stale2002 10y ago
Well at the very least by the fact that most people in prison don't try to kill themselves. Some do, sure, but most don't. Or how about this. The vast majority of people who are being charged with the death penalty in the court of law, try to prevent that sentence from happening. If everyone prefers the death penalty, then why would they use their lawyers to sue and prevent it from happening?
- gambiting 10y ago
  I am sure you agree that most people sentenced to death try to overturn it entirely and go free, not convert it into life inprisonment.
  - stale2002 10y ago
    What? There are lots of cases where they try and plea bargain it down to life. Why plea bargain down to life if you prefer death penalty.
    - hx87 10y ago
      > plea bargain it down to life Life with the possibility of parole, i.e. you still have a chance to live a free life, no matter how small and short. There are few if any cases of someone trying to bargain down to life without parole.
      - akiselev 10y ago
        You're wrong. I just Googled the phrase plea deals life without parole and found literally pages and pages and pages of articles about people plea bargaining down to life without parole. [1][2][3][4][5] And that's just from the first page. You do realize that you aren't executed right after the guilty plea, right? In capital cases many levels of appeals are mandatory and a death row inmate waits an average of 15 years before they're executed. In California, which has the largest death row population, no one has even been executed in a decade and there are no plans to so in many places it's a de facto life without parole sentence anyway. [1] http://www.kesq.com/D-A-Approves-Duncan-Plea-Deal-Life-In-Prison-Without-Parole/491564 http://www.kesq.com/D-A-Approves-Duncan-Plea-Deal-Life-In-Pr... [2] http://www.aol.com/article/2016/04/23/cody-rackemann-receives-4-life-without-parole-sentences-plus-20/21349708/ http://www.aol.com/article/2016/04/23/cody-rackemann-receive... [3] http://articles.philly.com/2016-01-14/news/69738739_1_mackie-and-hammond-justin-mackie-otif-wright http://articles.philly.com/2016-01-14/news/69738739_1_mackie... [4] http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/courts/plea-deal-in-hicks-park-slayings-results-in-life-sentence/article_2bd987e5-17e2-59af-9f2e-e7dfeb21cc49.html http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/courts/plea-deal-in-hicks-par... [5] http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/07/ariel_castro_agrees_to_plea_de.html http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/07/ariel_castr...

> Well you are in the significant minority. Do you have evidence to back that up?

by hx87 10y ago

> Well you are in the significant minority. Do you have evidence to back that up?

stale2002 10y ago

Well at the very least by the fact that most people in prison don't try to kill themselves. Some do, sure, but most don't. Or how about this. The vast majority of people who are being charged with the death penalty in the court of law, try to prevent that sentence from happening. If everyone prefers the death penalty, then why would they use their lawyers to sue and prevent it from happening?

gambiting 10y ago
I am sure you agree that most people sentenced to death try to overturn it entirely and go free, not convert it into life inprisonment.
- stale2002 10y ago
  What? There are lots of cases where they try and plea bargain it down to life. Why plea bargain down to life if you prefer death penalty.
  - hx87 10y ago
    > plea bargain it down to life Life with the possibility of parole, i.e. you still have a chance to live a free life, no matter how small and short. There are few if any cases of someone trying to bargain down to life without parole.
    - akiselev 10y ago
      You're wrong. I just Googled the phrase plea deals life without parole and found literally pages and pages and pages of articles about people plea bargaining down to life without parole. [1][2][3][4][5] And that's just from the first page. You do realize that you aren't executed right after the guilty plea, right? In capital cases many levels of appeals are mandatory and a death row inmate waits an average of 15 years before they're executed. In California, which has the largest death row population, no one has even been executed in a decade and there are no plans to so in many places it's a de facto life without parole sentence anyway. [1] http://www.kesq.com/D-A-Approves-Duncan-Plea-Deal-Life-In-Prison-Without-Parole/491564 http://www.kesq.com/D-A-Approves-Duncan-Plea-Deal-Life-In-Pr... [2] http://www.aol.com/article/2016/04/23/cody-rackemann-receives-4-life-without-parole-sentences-plus-20/21349708/ http://www.aol.com/article/2016/04/23/cody-rackemann-receive... [3] http://articles.philly.com/2016-01-14/news/69738739_1_mackie-and-hammond-justin-mackie-otif-wright http://articles.philly.com/2016-01-14/news/69738739_1_mackie... [4] http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/courts/plea-deal-in-hicks-park-slayings-results-in-life-sentence/article_2bd987e5-17e2-59af-9f2e-e7dfeb21cc49.html http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/courts/plea-deal-in-hicks-par... [5] http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/07/ariel_castro_agrees_to_plea_de.html http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/07/ariel_castr...