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I've been in Turkey for the last 2 years. There are so many things to say against that article but it won't be read or put some importance on. Here you see how

I've been in Turkey for the last 2 years. There are so many things to say against that article but it won't be read or put some importance on. Here you see how Western media discriminates cultures and manipulates the news. It's just I am constantly shocked by how hard the Western media tries to impose its own views for its own citizens. Maybe in all modern history of Turkey, there hasn't been such a huge agreement about the failed coup but still Western media gives the message that even coup would be better... That day guys, 246 people have died for democracy. Even this fact can change everything, but it's not even mentioned.

hx87 10y ago
I don't know what the hell you've been reading, but the consensus in western media about the coup appears to be, in order of best to worst: no coup at all > failed coup > successful coup Sometimes the latter two are switched, but the former is always presented as the best outcome.
- catnaroek 10y ago
  So that's why the coup against Morsi was never called a coup?
  - JumpCrisscross 10y ago
    Literally the title of the Wikipedia article [1]. Every reference I checked in that article, including this one from CNN [2], called it a coup. "Coup" and "revolution" aren't dirty words in Western lexicon. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Egyptian_coup_d%27état https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Egyptian_coup_d%27état [2] http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/05/world/meast/egypt-coup http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/05/world/meast/egypt-coup
doczoidberg 10y ago
Western media manipulates the news? Maybe some things are not 100% correct but what does Erdogan then? You put the things wrong way around. Erdogan abolished democracy from Turkey. Maybe you are already brainwashed by his censorship? We have many Turkey discussions here in germany and the Erdogan people don't have any arguments. Sometimes they just lie so hard that it's just ridiculous.
quonn 10y ago
> That day guys, 246 people have died for democracy. Some would doubt that even half of those really care about democracy as there friends are willingly following the current government into what is increasingly indistinguishable from a dictatorship. For democracy it is not sufficient to implement the will of the majority: There also has to be a well-educated majority, freedom of the press, a working justice system and so on. Otherwise you might just get a tyranny of the (manipulated) masses.

hx87 10y ago

I don't know what the hell you've been reading, but the consensus in western media about the coup appears to be, in order of best to worst: no coup at all > failed coup > successful coup Sometimes the latter two are switched, but the former is always presented as the best outcome.

catnaroek 10y ago
So that's why the coup against Morsi was never called a coup?
- JumpCrisscross 10y ago
  Literally the title of the Wikipedia article [1]. Every reference I checked in that article, including this one from CNN [2], called it a coup. "Coup" and "revolution" aren't dirty words in Western lexicon. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Egyptian_coup_d%27état https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Egyptian_coup_d%27état [2] http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/05/world/meast/egypt-coup http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/05/world/meast/egypt-coup

doczoidberg 10y ago

Western media manipulates the news? Maybe some things are not 100% correct but what does Erdogan then? You put the things wrong way around. Erdogan abolished democracy from Turkey. Maybe you are already brainwashed by his censorship? We have many Turkey discussions here in germany and the Erdogan people don't have any arguments. Sometimes they just lie so hard that it's just ridiculous.

quonn 10y ago

> That day guys, 246 people have died for democracy. Some would doubt that even half of those really care about democracy as there friends are willingly following the current government into what is increasingly indistinguishable from a dictatorship. For democracy it is not sufficient to implement the will of the majority: There also has to be a well-educated majority, freedom of the press, a working justice system and so on. Otherwise you might just get a tyranny of the (manipulated) masses.