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Can you try to cite some actual evidence here instead of parroting what basically sounds like an insane conspiracy theory? None of this justifies persecuting a

Can you try to cite some actual evidence here instead of parroting what basically sounds like an insane conspiracy theory? None of this justifies persecuting academics for conducting science and/or having not great opinions of their government. None of this is an excuse to throw away rule of law, and none of it justifies treating humans without basic dignities https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/turkey-coup-authorities-set-up-traitors-cemetery-a7160891.html&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiG2Ivx85jOAhXE5IMKHYWwC6EQqQIIDjAA&usg=AFQjCNEb8Iqv_OWfDWa8MSIKNwXFEMIvQQ https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.independent.co.uk/ne...

selimthegrim 10y ago
The Gulen charter schools have been up to all sorts of no good in the US, see http://www.nola.com/education/baton-rouge/index.ssf/2013/12/kenilworth_charter_school_subj.html http://www.nola.com/education/baton-rouge/index.ssf/2013/12/... If you really want to understand the mentality of people that would lead them to submit to an organization like that, I suggest reading "Black Book" by Orhan Pamuk. (As an aside, we met 2-3 years back in Portland a few times at some of those New Relic meet ups, I hope neocities is still doing well!)
- kyledrake 10y ago
  I'm certainly not ruling out that this could all be true. What I'd love to see is a compilation of evidence. There's a great site on Neocities that's been doing this with Scientology since our foundation and is regularly updated https://scientology.neocities.org https://scientology.neocities.org (Neocities is going strong, thank you!)
  - centicosm 10y ago
    Posted this earlier in another thread, but this is an interesting, well-referenced, and us-based analysis supporting his claims: http://www.meforum.org/2045/fethullah-gulens-grand-ambition http://www.meforum.org/2045/fethullah-gulens-grand-ambition
nepotism2016 10y ago
Does far fetched, however most of Turkish people believe this. If the media is controlled by the government, conspiracies is what you believe in
- m00dy 10y ago
  This coup thing is very well organized and trust me. I'm secular and not following mainstream media. Mainstream media didn't say anything about US or who's behind this. But I'm telling you the truth, these people or gulenist people whatever you call are supported by some organization or people residing in North America.
  - yxhuvud 10y ago
    Eh, all things considered, the coup seems very badly organized in retrospect. Not nearly enough support from the army and therefore doomed to fail.
    - gorkemyurt 10y ago
      “Battles have been won against greater odds” John Snow. Jokes aside, most of these generals were already getting arrested or getting kicked out of the military in the following weeks, they just decided to actually do the crime they are getting arrested for
  - m00dy 10y ago
    I can only see a timing problem.

selimthegrim 10y ago

The Gulen charter schools have been up to all sorts of no good in the US, see http://www.nola.com/education/baton-rouge/index.ssf/2013/12/kenilworth_charter_school_subj.html http://www.nola.com/education/baton-rouge/index.ssf/2013/12/... If you really want to understand the mentality of people that would lead them to submit to an organization like that, I suggest reading "Black Book" by Orhan Pamuk. (As an aside, we met 2-3 years back in Portland a few times at some of those New Relic meet ups, I hope neocities is still doing well!)

kyledrake 10y ago
I'm certainly not ruling out that this could all be true. What I'd love to see is a compilation of evidence. There's a great site on Neocities that's been doing this with Scientology since our foundation and is regularly updated https://scientology.neocities.org https://scientology.neocities.org (Neocities is going strong, thank you!)
- centicosm 10y ago
  Posted this earlier in another thread, but this is an interesting, well-referenced, and us-based analysis supporting his claims: http://www.meforum.org/2045/fethullah-gulens-grand-ambition http://www.meforum.org/2045/fethullah-gulens-grand-ambition

nepotism2016 10y ago

Does far fetched, however most of Turkish people believe this. If the media is controlled by the government, conspiracies is what you believe in

m00dy 10y ago
This coup thing is very well organized and trust me. I'm secular and not following mainstream media. Mainstream media didn't say anything about US or who's behind this. But I'm telling you the truth, these people or gulenist people whatever you call are supported by some organization or people residing in North America.
- yxhuvud 10y ago
  Eh, all things considered, the coup seems very badly organized in retrospect. Not nearly enough support from the army and therefore doomed to fail.
  - gorkemyurt 10y ago
    “Battles have been won against greater odds” John Snow. Jokes aside, most of these generals were already getting arrested or getting kicked out of the military in the following weeks, they just decided to actually do the crime they are getting arrested for
- m00dy 10y ago
  I can only see a timing problem.