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I had an iPhone 4 at one point and the existing Nokia devices were still able to compete, thanks to Opera also on the browser side. In fact I remember switching

by blub 10y ago

I had an iPhone 4 at one point and the existing Nokia devices were still able to compete, thanks to Opera also on the browser side. In fact I remember switching back from the 4 due to missing features and several annoyances.

markonen 10y ago
The contemporary 2010 Nokia device was the N8, specs here: http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n8-3252.php http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n8-3252.php The Finnish tech industry is still filled to the brim with ex-Nokia folk who simply do not understand what was better about the iPhone. Even today.
- blub 10y ago
  Yeah I know, I also had the N8 among other models (but I had switched back to the E72). Some things were better about the iPhone, notably the UX, browsing and the app ecosystem which was starting to pick up (but was nowhere near what we have today). Some thing were worse, and this is where many people seem to have developed selective memory issues. In particular the E72 didn't drop calls if one held it wrong, had a battery life at least double that of the iPhone and was less than half its price. The N8 had a great camera and free offline maps. With Opera mobile it had a pretty damn good browsing experience. It was far from a complete dud. The N9 could compete toe to toe with the 4S also on the UX, but by then it was too late. Nokia didn't have the foresight and guts to kill Symbian and bet the company on Maemo/Meego while they still had the possibility to build an ecosystem around it. Apple invested all their effort into the iPhone and incrementally turned it from a good browsing device albeit average smartphone into a superb mobile computer while Nokia was starting and restarting four projects to compete with it.
coldtea 10y ago
>I had an iPhone 4 at one point and the existing Nokia devices were still able to compete, thanks to Opera also on the browser side. Thanks to Opera? Mobile Safari on the first iPhone was the first browser that actually made sense and showed the web as you should.
- blub 10y ago
  Yeah, Opera mobile and mini, arguably the most innovative mobile browsers ever invented. I had a Sony Ericsson P1i and was enjoying the mobile web thanks to Opera just fine. Safari was impressive back then for sure, but feature-wise it's pretty bad even today.

by blub 10y ago

markonen 10y ago

The contemporary 2010 Nokia device was the N8, specs here: http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n8-3252.php http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n8-3252.php The Finnish tech industry is still filled to the brim with ex-Nokia folk who simply do not understand what was better about the iPhone. Even today.

blub 10y ago
Yeah I know, I also had the N8 among other models (but I had switched back to the E72). Some things were better about the iPhone, notably the UX, browsing and the app ecosystem which was starting to pick up (but was nowhere near what we have today). Some thing were worse, and this is where many people seem to have developed selective memory issues. In particular the E72 didn't drop calls if one held it wrong, had a battery life at least double that of the iPhone and was less than half its price. The N8 had a great camera and free offline maps. With Opera mobile it had a pretty damn good browsing experience. It was far from a complete dud. The N9 could compete toe to toe with the 4S also on the UX, but by then it was too late. Nokia didn't have the foresight and guts to kill Symbian and bet the company on Maemo/Meego while they still had the possibility to build an ecosystem around it. Apple invested all their effort into the iPhone and incrementally turned it from a good browsing device albeit average smartphone into a superb mobile computer while Nokia was starting and restarting four projects to compete with it.

coldtea 10y ago

>I had an iPhone 4 at one point and the existing Nokia devices were still able to compete, thanks to Opera also on the browser side. Thanks to Opera? Mobile Safari on the first iPhone was the first browser that actually made sense and showed the web as you should.

blub 10y ago
Yeah, Opera mobile and mini, arguably the most innovative mobile browsers ever invented. I had a Sony Ericsson P1i and was enjoying the mobile web thanks to Opera just fine. Safari was impressive back then for sure, but feature-wise it's pretty bad even today.