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They did this already. http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/29/8513519/microsoft-windows-10-continuum-for-phones http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/29/8513519/microsoft-

They did this already. http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/29/8513519/microsoft-windows-10-continuum-for-phones http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/29/8513519/microsoft-windows-...

imaginenore 10y ago
I don't want some simulation, I want the same OS running on my phone. Phones have been powerful enough for a while to run real OSs.
- sokoloff 10y ago
  Phone CPUs are (often barely). Phone batteries generally aren't.
  - Retric 10y ago
    If your connected to a docking station for monitor access then you don't need to worry about battery life. Other than that windows does not really take much power in laptop mode. Smartphones have surpassed low end laptops for a while in CPU / RAM. It's just not an x86 CPU.
    - sokoloff 10y ago
      If my mobile phone has to be docked for most of the day, it loses most of its value and mobility.
      - Gustomaximus 10y ago
        The idea is it's docked when you're stationary, and mobile when you are. It fits what your doing.
        sokoloff 10y ago
        It doesn't fit what I'm doing if what I'm doing is being mobile and want my phone to last 18-36 hours with reasonable battery size and weight.
        Retric 10y ago
        If you mean the normal smartphone 2-3days standby + 6 hours use then that's a non issue with a standard desktop OS (Win, OS X, Linux). The problem in making a laptop OS usable with a smartphone form factor. If you want 18+ hours watching YouTube then nobody does that in a cellphone form factor.
        sokoloff 10y ago
        I'm skeptical, as my current iPhone 5S can't manage 2 full days without charging, usually in wifi range, and very little video. Mail, calendar, iMessage, light web, probably less than 20 minutes talk per day on average. Granted, it's 2 years old (or so), but I have to believe that Apple developed iOS with an eye towards optimizing battery life rather than adapting the UI of OSX.
Gustomaximus 10y ago
Yeah, I should have mentioned but that's what I meant by "genuine attempt". They never really pushed this. These things dont typically happen organically. Even the first iPhone sales were pretty average. I actually bought a cheap Lumia to test this release out but on release they decided to drop my phone (which they already announced as compatible) from the upgrade so I never got to try it out. Did anyone give it a go? Like/not?
- divbit 10y ago
  >Did anyone give it a go? Like/not? Yeah, wife and I watch netflix / youtube in edge on continuum all the time on my lumia 950 (great combo with t-mobile binge/on). It really works well as wireless pc mouse / remote with the wireless display adapter from bed (seemless, 1-touch, no issues for me). I don't use it for actual computing since I have surface / macbook for that.
- WorldMaker 10y ago
  I've used it to Miracast things to my TV (via the Xbox One), and nearly gave a PowerPoint presentation from it once. That's where I see it being most real world useful is for last minute presentations where I already have easy access to my .pptx files on my phone and can Miracast directly to some TV or projector. It's also the interesting thing here too about how Continuum is in competition with the UWP that enables it: in my case all my devices run Windows 10 and have access to all the same apps. With roaming and cloud services I can just pull up that app on any other device and switch devices freely. I rarely need to Continuum cast to some other device within my home because that app and that data is already accessible there... So I could see saving the day with a last minute PowerPoint presentation somewhere where the only laptop I thought to bring was my phone, but that is mostly it. If there were coffee shops or hot desk spaces or hotel rooms with Miracast-capable screens and bluetooth keyboards scattered around the country you could see it being even handier for things like random Word document writing on the go for the traveler that doesn't want to bring a laptop everywhere... So I've liked it for what I've used it for and I can think of scenarios where I would use it more, but I find day to day I don't use it much.
flukus 10y ago
Do any phones actually support this? Are there any x64 phones out there? Can you install full windows apps on them or are you restricted to the app store.
- WorldMaker 10y ago
  Yes Lumia 950, 950XL support Continuum today. No, they aren't x64 phones and don't support x64 apps. They aren't restricted to the app store, you could sideload UWP apps if you had them. UWP apps these days are "full windows apps" for all intents and purposes these days. There may not be as many UWP apps right now as there are the long legacy of Win32 apps and the deep wells of Android and iOS apps, but there are some very good UWP apps out there, some of which are very useful in Continuum.

They did this already. http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/29/8513519/microsoft-windows-10-continuum-for-phones http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/29/8513519/microsoft-windows-...

imaginenore 10y ago

I don't want some simulation, I want the same OS running on my phone. Phones have been powerful enough for a while to run real OSs.

sokoloff 10y ago
Phone CPUs are (often barely). Phone batteries generally aren't.
- Retric 10y ago
  If your connected to a docking station for monitor access then you don't need to worry about battery life. Other than that windows does not really take much power in laptop mode. Smartphones have surpassed low end laptops for a while in CPU / RAM. It's just not an x86 CPU.
  - sokoloff 10y ago
    If my mobile phone has to be docked for most of the day, it loses most of its value and mobility.
    - Gustomaximus 10y ago
      The idea is it's docked when you're stationary, and mobile when you are. It fits what your doing.
      - sokoloff 10y ago
        It doesn't fit what I'm doing if what I'm doing is being mobile and want my phone to last 18-36 hours with reasonable battery size and weight.
        Retric 10y ago
        If you mean the normal smartphone 2-3days standby + 6 hours use then that's a non issue with a standard desktop OS (Win, OS X, Linux). The problem in making a laptop OS usable with a smartphone form factor. If you want 18+ hours watching YouTube then nobody does that in a cellphone form factor.
        sokoloff 10y ago
        I'm skeptical, as my current iPhone 5S can't manage 2 full days without charging, usually in wifi range, and very little video. Mail, calendar, iMessage, light web, probably less than 20 minutes talk per day on average. Granted, it's 2 years old (or so), but I have to believe that Apple developed iOS with an eye towards optimizing battery life rather than adapting the UI of OSX.

Gustomaximus 10y ago

Yeah, I should have mentioned but that's what I meant by "genuine attempt". They never really pushed this. These things dont typically happen organically. Even the first iPhone sales were pretty average. I actually bought a cheap Lumia to test this release out but on release they decided to drop my phone (which they already announced as compatible) from the upgrade so I never got to try it out. Did anyone give it a go? Like/not?

divbit 10y ago
>Did anyone give it a go? Like/not? Yeah, wife and I watch netflix / youtube in edge on continuum all the time on my lumia 950 (great combo with t-mobile binge/on). It really works well as wireless pc mouse / remote with the wireless display adapter from bed (seemless, 1-touch, no issues for me). I don't use it for actual computing since I have surface / macbook for that.
WorldMaker 10y ago
I've used it to Miracast things to my TV (via the Xbox One), and nearly gave a PowerPoint presentation from it once. That's where I see it being most real world useful is for last minute presentations where I already have easy access to my .pptx files on my phone and can Miracast directly to some TV or projector. It's also the interesting thing here too about how Continuum is in competition with the UWP that enables it: in my case all my devices run Windows 10 and have access to all the same apps. With roaming and cloud services I can just pull up that app on any other device and switch devices freely. I rarely need to Continuum cast to some other device within my home because that app and that data is already accessible there... So I could see saving the day with a last minute PowerPoint presentation somewhere where the only laptop I thought to bring was my phone, but that is mostly it. If there were coffee shops or hot desk spaces or hotel rooms with Miracast-capable screens and bluetooth keyboards scattered around the country you could see it being even handier for things like random Word document writing on the go for the traveler that doesn't want to bring a laptop everywhere... So I've liked it for what I've used it for and I can think of scenarios where I would use it more, but I find day to day I don't use it much.

flukus 10y ago

Do any phones actually support this? Are there any x64 phones out there? Can you install full windows apps on them or are you restricted to the app store.

WorldMaker 10y ago
Yes Lumia 950, 950XL support Continuum today. No, they aren't x64 phones and don't support x64 apps. They aren't restricted to the app store, you could sideload UWP apps if you had them. UWP apps these days are "full windows apps" for all intents and purposes these days. There may not be as many UWP apps right now as there are the long legacy of Win32 apps and the deep wells of Android and iOS apps, but there are some very good UWP apps out there, some of which are very useful in Continuum.