I do get that, as an amateur Lisper. I have played with CCL and SBCL on and off for a while. Ironically, the AUR package I used Clozure Lisp with does not eve

I do get that, as an amateur Lisper. I have played with CCL and SBCL on and off for a while. Ironically, the AUR package I used Clozure Lisp with does not even exist anymore on Arch AUR repos. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ccl-bin/?comments=all https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ccl-bin/?comments=all (That won't work) I get the trade off, but if you read SBCL dev blogs, like PVK, you will recognize really competent programmers and elegant solutions. https://pvk.ca/ https://pvk.ca/ The problem is these gods (I revere them) cannot possibly encode all the hacks and knowledge. They have to code, and the nuances of such "hacks" are internalized by them and forgotten. Ironically, a lot of shit talk on Lisp transpires here, and it is one of the most sophisticated developer-productive tools I have seen, with many laudable features other toolchains brag about. Lisps had them for years. This is not to be an elitist jackass; the cultural shift to obsolence (sadly, my view) is why only diehards know and others avoid implementation details and functionality: we don't use it, so we don't care. Either way, dead code is scary, especially in such scenarios with binary image dumping and bit fiddling hacks. I was ironically aware of such issues with SBCL when I stumbled on Gentoo Hardened list info when people explained how Lisps have trouble in such constrained environments. https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-hardened/message/d2fb14f123e7db18dc7fdbd7ba4c74fa https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-hardened/message/d2fb14f1... I worry later on such methods leave blobs of weak executable routines and other items of interest to get a foothold once the unsung heroes of now move on. On the other hand, it is painfully obvious to me higher level languages, with or without memory control, allow more flexbility, depth, and alternatives to avoid buffer overflows and other counterpoints made in other threads here. The devil is in details that fly over my head at the speed of light. Life is a tradeoff. The fact that the world uses FreeBSD (WhatsApp) and ASLR is not fully implemented means, yeah, it is complicated. It is scary to me, a guy who shits himself at macros and could not code a rudimentary one-pass compiler if you held a gun to my head.