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>She's just the latest high profile example. She's attracted an order of magnitude more vitriol than any of the other "tons of execs." It's her that HN chooses

>She's just the latest high profile example. She's attracted an order of magnitude more vitriol than any of the other "tons of execs." It's her that HN chooses to complain about. It matters which instances you choose to be vocal about. And it's extremely suspicious, to say the least, that an industry which insists it has no sexism problem because men are just better at it, spends a great deal of time and energy attacking a woman who presides over a collapse but glosses over or barely acknowledges the men who have done the same.

ebbv 10y ago
I'm not going to deny there's a rise in misogyny on the internet recently with the MRA b.s. but personally my objections to her pay are the same as every other executive. I can't speak to anyone else's motivations.
- Nadya 10y ago
  >I'm not going to deny there's a rise in misogyny on the internet recently with the MRA b.s. I'm not going to deny there's a rise in misandry on the internet recently with the feminist b.s. but personally I have no objections to her pay in particular, I feel CEO''s in general are completely overpaid. She took a sinking ship and tried to right it and failed - I don't really think anyone could have realistically turned around Yahoo anyway.
pharrington 10y ago
Very few people on this forum spend alot of time looking into the leadership of the myriad of ineptly run companies. Mayer is deliberately high profile, and the company she runs is a household name. Criticism of her is the low hanging fruit; its precisely because most of us can't be assed to get interested in inept CEOs that the ones we do criticize are already the most (in)famous.
bogomipz 10y ago
That's a slippery slope right there. I don't care about Yahoo or celebrity CEO culture at all. But I also feel like people should be able to express their opinions on a CEO and not be worried that doing so constitutes being labeled a sexist if the CEO happens to be a woman. There have been many males CEOs that have been derided as well - Bezos, Jobs et al so lets keep this in perspective. Star CEOs with their insanely outsized pay packages and their carefully cultivated public images make them targets for derision, not their sex.
- ethbro 10y ago
  I think this issue the other poster is referring to is whether we should act to decrease sexism (their argument) or ignore sexism (your argument). There's no right answer, but the other commenter has a point that if sexism is what causes Mayer to appear more often in stories about underperforming CEOs with exit packages (sexism), and we comment negatively on all stories of the like (neutral), then we become complicit in generating a sexist culture. Essentially because sexists chose the only things we saw to comment on in the first place.
forgetsusername 10y ago
Yeah, everyone here criticizes her because she's a woman. We only root for men. Get over yourself. MM was hyped beyond reason when she was hired, made a ton of money and ended up being an apparently mediocre CEO. And yet, people are still producing articles about the "great" work she did at Yahoo. That's why she is criticized.

ebbv 10y ago

I'm not going to deny there's a rise in misogyny on the internet recently with the MRA b.s. but personally my objections to her pay are the same as every other executive. I can't speak to anyone else's motivations.

Nadya 10y ago
>I'm not going to deny there's a rise in misogyny on the internet recently with the MRA b.s. I'm not going to deny there's a rise in misandry on the internet recently with the feminist b.s. but personally I have no objections to her pay in particular, I feel CEO''s in general are completely overpaid. She took a sinking ship and tried to right it and failed - I don't really think anyone could have realistically turned around Yahoo anyway.

pharrington 10y ago

Very few people on this forum spend alot of time looking into the leadership of the myriad of ineptly run companies. Mayer is deliberately high profile, and the company she runs is a household name. Criticism of her is the low hanging fruit; its precisely because most of us can't be assed to get interested in inept CEOs that the ones we do criticize are already the most (in)famous.

bogomipz 10y ago

That's a slippery slope right there. I don't care about Yahoo or celebrity CEO culture at all. But I also feel like people should be able to express their opinions on a CEO and not be worried that doing so constitutes being labeled a sexist if the CEO happens to be a woman. There have been many males CEOs that have been derided as well - Bezos, Jobs et al so lets keep this in perspective. Star CEOs with their insanely outsized pay packages and their carefully cultivated public images make them targets for derision, not their sex.

ethbro 10y ago
I think this issue the other poster is referring to is whether we should act to decrease sexism (their argument) or ignore sexism (your argument). There's no right answer, but the other commenter has a point that if sexism is what causes Mayer to appear more often in stories about underperforming CEOs with exit packages (sexism), and we comment negatively on all stories of the like (neutral), then we become complicit in generating a sexist culture. Essentially because sexists chose the only things we saw to comment on in the first place.

forgetsusername 10y ago

Yeah, everyone here criticizes her because she's a woman. We only root for men. Get over yourself. MM was hyped beyond reason when she was hired, made a ton of money and ended up being an apparently mediocre CEO. And yet, people are still producing articles about the "great" work she did at Yahoo. That's why she is criticized.