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Would that not result in a World Environmental Law ? There is quite a difference already even between the EU and US permitted chemicals.

zaroth 10y ago
I consider it something akin to trading in blood diamonds / conflict diamonds. I'll have to research the legal framework by which conflict diamonds were outlawed. I wonder if the same could be done for slave-mined mica? From a brief search, it looks like the most obvious convention against child labor and debt bondage which would apply in this case is C182 [1] to which 180 of 187 member countries have signed. Notably, India is the only large country which has not. [1] - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worst_Forms_of_Child_Labour_Convention https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worst_Forms_of_Child_Labour_...
- SixSigma 10y ago
  There are plenty of frameworks for supply chains e.g. ISO 26000 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_26000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_26000 SA 8000 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SA8000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SA8000 Shareholders should start applying pressure IKEA, for instance, got burned by prison labour and have been strong on CSR ever since. [1] They use the iWay framework [2] and other supplier certification [3] [1] http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/ikea-used-forced-prison-labour-to-make-furniture-8324016.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/ikea-used-fo... [2 pdf] http://www.ikea.com/ms/en_GB/pdf/reports-downloads/ikea-code-of-conduct-the-iway-standard.pdf http://www.ikea.com/ms/en_GB/pdf/reports-downloads/ikea-code... [3 pdf] http://supplierportal.ikea.com/doingbusinesswithIKEA/quality/Documents/ISQS%20Go%20No%20Go%20Material%20QIG.pdf http://supplierportal.ikea.com/doingbusinesswithIKEA/quality...
  - zaroth 10y ago
    But aren't these simple business standards which lead to standardized contract language and hand-washing? I'm looking for the regulatory framework which treats employing slave-labor in your supply chain as a civil offense with potentially massive punitive damages.
    - SixSigma 10y ago
      IKEA are pretty hot on punishing transgressors. But yes, you're right, greenwashing is always a danger. Slavery is a good place to start, it is claimed that there are more slaves in the world now than every in human history, for example see - ‘Sea Slaves’: The Human Misery That Feeds Pets and Livestock [1] In 2015 the UK passed the Modern Slavery Act [2] which gave the biggest companies (turnover £36m+) a legal responsibility and sets out a set of punishments and reparations if they fail to address slavery in their supply chains. The Supply Chain managers of the future are having CSR drilled into them now as part of their education (I know, I'm part of it). We must hope they are not crushed by the wheels of the corporate machines. [1] http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/27/world/outlaw-ocean-thailand-fishing-sea-slaves-pets.html http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/27/world/outlaw-ocean-thailan... [2] http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2014-15/modernslavery.html http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2014-15/modernslavery.ht...
      - zaroth 10y ago
        Thanks for the pointers! I was really optimistic following the link, but reading more... The draft bill included no measures to counter the use of slave labour abroad as the Home Office believed that asking businesses to audit and report on modern slavery in their supply chains would be an “additional burden”. However, campaigning resulted in a supply chain clause being added to the bills so that “big business will be forced to make public its efforts to stop the use of slave labour by its suppliers”. And further... There are, however, no legally binding requirements to conduct due diligence on supply chains and there are no criminal or financial penalties for non-compliance. So, again, I ask the universe... why the fuck not?!
        SixSigma 10y ago
        The coalition of the unwilling
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zaroth 10y ago

I consider it something akin to trading in blood diamonds / conflict diamonds. I'll have to research the legal framework by which conflict diamonds were outlawed. I wonder if the same could be done for slave-mined mica? From a brief search, it looks like the most obvious convention against child labor and debt bondage which would apply in this case is C182 [1] to which 180 of 187 member countries have signed. Notably, India is the only large country which has not. [1] - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worst_Forms_of_Child_Labour_Convention https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worst_Forms_of_Child_Labour_...

SixSigma 10y ago
There are plenty of frameworks for supply chains e.g. ISO 26000 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_26000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_26000 SA 8000 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SA8000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SA8000 Shareholders should start applying pressure IKEA, for instance, got burned by prison labour and have been strong on CSR ever since. [1] They use the iWay framework [2] and other supplier certification [3] [1] http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/ikea-used-forced-prison-labour-to-make-furniture-8324016.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/ikea-used-fo... [2 pdf] http://www.ikea.com/ms/en_GB/pdf/reports-downloads/ikea-code-of-conduct-the-iway-standard.pdf http://www.ikea.com/ms/en_GB/pdf/reports-downloads/ikea-code... [3 pdf] http://supplierportal.ikea.com/doingbusinesswithIKEA/quality/Documents/ISQS%20Go%20No%20Go%20Material%20QIG.pdf http://supplierportal.ikea.com/doingbusinesswithIKEA/quality...
- zaroth 10y ago
  But aren't these simple business standards which lead to standardized contract language and hand-washing? I'm looking for the regulatory framework which treats employing slave-labor in your supply chain as a civil offense with potentially massive punitive damages.
  - SixSigma 10y ago
    IKEA are pretty hot on punishing transgressors. But yes, you're right, greenwashing is always a danger. Slavery is a good place to start, it is claimed that there are more slaves in the world now than every in human history, for example see - ‘Sea Slaves’: The Human Misery That Feeds Pets and Livestock [1] In 2015 the UK passed the Modern Slavery Act [2] which gave the biggest companies (turnover £36m+) a legal responsibility and sets out a set of punishments and reparations if they fail to address slavery in their supply chains. The Supply Chain managers of the future are having CSR drilled into them now as part of their education (I know, I'm part of it). We must hope they are not crushed by the wheels of the corporate machines. [1] http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/27/world/outlaw-ocean-thailand-fishing-sea-slaves-pets.html http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/27/world/outlaw-ocean-thailan... [2] http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2014-15/modernslavery.html http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2014-15/modernslavery.ht...
    - zaroth 10y ago
      Thanks for the pointers! I was really optimistic following the link, but reading more... The draft bill included no measures to counter the use of slave labour abroad as the Home Office believed that asking businesses to audit and report on modern slavery in their supply chains would be an “additional burden”. However, campaigning resulted in a supply chain clause being added to the bills so that “big business will be forced to make public its efforts to stop the use of slave labour by its suppliers”. And further... There are, however, no legally binding requirements to conduct due diligence on supply chains and there are no criminal or financial penalties for non-compliance. So, again, I ask the universe... why the fuck not?!
      - SixSigma 10y ago
        The coalition of the unwilling

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