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I'd love to hear a coherent explanation of how homosexuals are trying to "destroy their culture" and "flood them with Muslims." The vast majority of homosexual

I'd love to hear a coherent explanation of how homosexuals are trying to "destroy their culture" and "flood them with Muslims." The vast majority of homosexuals I know have no interest in anything besides being accepted as gay. They don't want to change your culture, they don't even want to force you to embrace them. And the link with Muslims is especially surprising. Some of the most anti-Muslim people I know are gay precisely because of that religion's draconian and regressive stances on it. Of course, if your goal is to persuade people that there is a vast conspiracy of everyone else (leftists, gays, minorities) to invade you then the rhetoric makes a lot more sense. Naturally, it's straight out of the fascist playbook.

guard-of-terra 10y ago
> trying I wasn't talking about that, it's your imagination. Probably counts as spin on your part. Other than that, the explanation was provided to you. I'm not blaming gays especially, it's just they were mentioned together with leftists and I've weighted them together. I expect their superposition to be significant anyway. > if your goal is to persuade I have no goal, I'm just chit-chatting, thank you, officer, and good day. > there is a vast conspiracy That's your imagination again. > the rhetoric How about "discussion"? > straight out of the fascist playbook So is yours.
- morgante 10y ago
  It's literally a quote from your comment: > "Gays and leftists" definitely want to "destroy their culture" and "flood them with Muslims". To be clear, I wasn't specifically responding to your comment though. You weren't the first person to come up with the notion that liberals/gays/muslims are coming for your culture and the people promoting that certainly do care about "rhetorical" effect. You're just listening to them. It seems like you'd prefer to use "fascism" as a term which simply applies to anything you disagree with. I suggest you read the article.
  - guard-of-terra 10y ago
    > If we would hold a poll, "should Poland accept whole lot of refugees from Middle East?", what response would you expect from "gays and leftists"? I would suspect they'll be at least 60% pro "Poles should definitely accept as much refugees as humanely possible". Aaaand, in my book, that counts as "wanting to flood smbd with Muslims". There's just notion that it's a respectable thing to want, and fighting it is not respectable. Even talking about this is frowned upon as you can see.
    - ajuc 10y ago
      > I would suspect they'll be at least 60% pro "Poles should definitely accept as much refugees as humanely possible". You would be wrong. I don't think you can find 5% to support such position. "Should Poland accept some refuges" - for that most probably, but still I don't think difference between sexual orientations is that significant. It's mostly about political views.
      - guard-of-terra 10y ago
        > I don't think you can find 5% to support such position. Why then this position is only thing we hear from liberal camp? Didn't hear them trying to solve the hard problem of "when deciding what to do with refugees, who is to let in and what to do with rejects". It's not about sexual orientation, but public sexual orientation seems to correlate heavily with political views.

guard-of-terra 10y ago

> trying I wasn't talking about that, it's your imagination. Probably counts as spin on your part. Other than that, the explanation was provided to you. I'm not blaming gays especially, it's just they were mentioned together with leftists and I've weighted them together. I expect their superposition to be significant anyway. > if your goal is to persuade I have no goal, I'm just chit-chatting, thank you, officer, and good day. > there is a vast conspiracy That's your imagination again. > the rhetoric How about "discussion"? > straight out of the fascist playbook So is yours.

morgante 10y ago
It's literally a quote from your comment: > "Gays and leftists" definitely want to "destroy their culture" and "flood them with Muslims". To be clear, I wasn't specifically responding to your comment though. You weren't the first person to come up with the notion that liberals/gays/muslims are coming for your culture and the people promoting that certainly do care about "rhetorical" effect. You're just listening to them. It seems like you'd prefer to use "fascism" as a term which simply applies to anything you disagree with. I suggest you read the article.
- guard-of-terra 10y ago
  > If we would hold a poll, "should Poland accept whole lot of refugees from Middle East?", what response would you expect from "gays and leftists"? I would suspect they'll be at least 60% pro "Poles should definitely accept as much refugees as humanely possible". Aaaand, in my book, that counts as "wanting to flood smbd with Muslims". There's just notion that it's a respectable thing to want, and fighting it is not respectable. Even talking about this is frowned upon as you can see.
  - ajuc 10y ago
    > I would suspect they'll be at least 60% pro "Poles should definitely accept as much refugees as humanely possible". You would be wrong. I don't think you can find 5% to support such position. "Should Poland accept some refuges" - for that most probably, but still I don't think difference between sexual orientations is that significant. It's mostly about political views.
    - guard-of-terra 10y ago
      > I don't think you can find 5% to support such position. Why then this position is only thing we hear from liberal camp? Didn't hear them trying to solve the hard problem of "when deciding what to do with refugees, who is to let in and what to do with rejects". It's not about sexual orientation, but public sexual orientation seems to correlate heavily with political views.