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I get the feeling that you didn't really read the post. Nothing in the platform is required to use Rust, and you can trivially write Rust packages that don't us

by eridius 10y ago

I get the feeling that you didn't really read the post. Nothing in the platform is required to use Rust, and you can trivially write Rust packages that don't use the platform. The point of the platform is for convenience. In most cases it will make sense to use it because it provides a convenient set of libraries that are known to work well together, but you could also choose to just ignore the Rust platform entirely and continue to use Rust the same way we've been using it up to now.

Animats 10y ago
"In general, rustup is intended to be the primary mechanism for distribution; it’s expected that it will soon replace the guts of our official installers, becoming the primary way to acquire the Rust Platform and all that comes with it." Then, of course, the other installers will gradually break and be abandoned. The effect is that users must run the "Rust Platform", unless they have the resources to build their own distro. Is there a monetization scheme behind this? Does someone aspire to be the Canonical of the Rust ecosystem?
- dikaiosune 10y ago
  I don't see anything in this proposal which indicates that rustup would by default install any of this, and it's already the primary target of development efforts, Rust Platform or not. What other installers are you referring to, exactly? The old rustup.sh which couldn't support multiple toolchains installed alongside each other? multirust which didn't work on Windows? rustup is a massive improvement over both, IMO.
- eridius 10y ago
  Rustup being the mechanism to install the Rust Platform does not mean that installing the Rust Platform is required to use Rustup. Rustup is an existing tool that installs Rust for you, and it's highly likely that you'll be able to use it in the future to install just Rust or to install the whole Rust Platform at your discretion. > Is there a monetization scheme behind this? Does someone aspire to be the Canonical of the Rust ecosystem? This seems like a complete non-sequitur. I have no idea what you're trying to suggest here.
- tatterdemalion 10y ago
  I'm sorry, but this is incoherent FUD. Do you expect the Rust project to maintain multiple installers? Why? What does this have to do with monetization?
- pcwalton 10y ago
  > Is there a monetization scheme behind this? Does someone aspire to be the Canonical of the Rust ecosystem? Of course not. Spreading conspiracy theories isn't appreciated.

by eridius 10y ago

Animats 10y ago

"In general, rustup is intended to be the primary mechanism for distribution; it’s expected that it will soon replace the guts of our official installers, becoming the primary way to acquire the Rust Platform and all that comes with it." Then, of course, the other installers will gradually break and be abandoned. The effect is that users must run the "Rust Platform", unless they have the resources to build their own distro. Is there a monetization scheme behind this? Does someone aspire to be the Canonical of the Rust ecosystem?

dikaiosune 10y ago
I don't see anything in this proposal which indicates that rustup would by default install any of this, and it's already the primary target of development efforts, Rust Platform or not. What other installers are you referring to, exactly? The old rustup.sh which couldn't support multiple toolchains installed alongside each other? multirust which didn't work on Windows? rustup is a massive improvement over both, IMO.
eridius 10y ago
Rustup being the mechanism to install the Rust Platform does not mean that installing the Rust Platform is required to use Rustup. Rustup is an existing tool that installs Rust for you, and it's highly likely that you'll be able to use it in the future to install just Rust or to install the whole Rust Platform at your discretion. > Is there a monetization scheme behind this? Does someone aspire to be the Canonical of the Rust ecosystem? This seems like a complete non-sequitur. I have no idea what you're trying to suggest here.
tatterdemalion 10y ago
I'm sorry, but this is incoherent FUD. Do you expect the Rust project to maintain multiple installers? Why? What does this have to do with monetization?
pcwalton 10y ago
> Is there a monetization scheme behind this? Does someone aspire to be the Canonical of the Rust ecosystem? Of course not. Spreading conspiracy theories isn't appreciated.