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The chances of you dieing from law enforcement acting in a racist manner are vanishingly small and it is still illegal. The uae condones killing people for bei

by hueving 10y ago

The chances of you dieing from law enforcement acting in a racist manner are vanishingly small and it is still illegal. The uae condones killing people for being gay as a matter of policy. Don't expect much more than downvotes when you attempt to portray as the US being worse in that comparison.

enraged_camel 10y ago
The difference of course is that one can hide the fact that one is gay. It's not so easy to hide that one is black.
- erlehmann_ 10y ago
  Which might be one reason why they need surveillance. For many people, even a simple web search might turn up stuff that could get them arrested. For this reason, I have decided not to visit countries where some of the content on web sites I am responsible for is illegal.
- hueving 10y ago
  The difference of course is that one is discrimination based on law, while the other is a minority of bad actors acting illegally. >It's not so easy to hide that one is black. Sure it is. Wear a burka every time you are in public. This suggestion is also as ridiculous as suggesting that people hide the fact that they are gay.
  - brokenmachine 10y ago
    > Wear a burka every time you are in public. This suggestion is also as ridiculous as suggesting that people hide the fact that they are gay. So let me get this right: You are comparing the ridiculousness of a black person having to wear a burka in the US to avoid being shot, versus the ridiculousness of a gay person having to hide the fact that they are gay while in the UAE? I'm sorry, it just doesn't sound as ridiculous to me to expect someone to take care not to utter the words, "I am gay" while in a country where being gay can get you legally killed, as opposed to the ridiculousness of a black person having to wear a burka in the US to avoid being shot illegally. Being black in the US is legal, and being shot for being a black person in the US is uncommon. The burden of having to wear a burka all the time lest your blackness be discovered is large. Being gay in the UAE is illegal and punishable by death. The burden of not saying certain particular words to expose your gayness is small. Ergo, the black guy having to wear a burka option is clearly more ridiculous.
    - enraged_camel 10y ago
      >>Being black in the US is legal, and being shot for being a black person in the US is uncommon. That's true, although you also run the risk of being choked/tasered to death.

by hueving 10y ago

enraged_camel 10y ago

The difference of course is that one can hide the fact that one is gay. It's not so easy to hide that one is black.

erlehmann_ 10y ago
Which might be one reason why they need surveillance. For many people, even a simple web search might turn up stuff that could get them arrested. For this reason, I have decided not to visit countries where some of the content on web sites I am responsible for is illegal.
hueving 10y ago
The difference of course is that one is discrimination based on law, while the other is a minority of bad actors acting illegally. >It's not so easy to hide that one is black. Sure it is. Wear a burka every time you are in public. This suggestion is also as ridiculous as suggesting that people hide the fact that they are gay.
- brokenmachine 10y ago
  > Wear a burka every time you are in public. This suggestion is also as ridiculous as suggesting that people hide the fact that they are gay. So let me get this right: You are comparing the ridiculousness of a black person having to wear a burka in the US to avoid being shot, versus the ridiculousness of a gay person having to hide the fact that they are gay while in the UAE? I'm sorry, it just doesn't sound as ridiculous to me to expect someone to take care not to utter the words, "I am gay" while in a country where being gay can get you legally killed, as opposed to the ridiculousness of a black person having to wear a burka in the US to avoid being shot illegally. Being black in the US is legal, and being shot for being a black person in the US is uncommon. The burden of having to wear a burka all the time lest your blackness be discovered is large. Being gay in the UAE is illegal and punishable by death. The burden of not saying certain particular words to expose your gayness is small. Ergo, the black guy having to wear a burka option is clearly more ridiculous.
  - enraged_camel 10y ago
    >>Being black in the US is legal, and being shot for being a black person in the US is uncommon. That's true, although you also run the risk of being choked/tasered to death.