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These salaries seem SUPER low. Engineering manager with 15 years experience < 150k? Try 200+k here in NYC.

darklajid 10y ago
These salaries seem SUPER high. Developer with 10 years experience at 120k? I'm making less than half of that and don't feel particularly ripped off. (I guess both of our comments don't help a lot in general, except to show that you personally don't seem to consider an application at SO while I'd love to do just that)
- zaroth 10y ago
  A competent developer with 10 years experience at less than $60k gross?! I imagine any sized company in any location in the US would hire that person in a heartbeat. If you are a productive developer in a common programming language with 10 years experience, you have decent communication skills, and are able to work in a team, earning less than $60k -- then you are significantly underpaid.
- lloyd-christmas 10y ago
  My starting salary was higher than your 10 year experience salary. You are WAY off the grid, even with quality-of-life arguments factored in. Unless you work less than 30 hours a week, you ARE getting ripped off. I don't know anyone who started with less than 60k other than my brother who was 3rd man in at a bootstrapped startup. If you enjoy your job, awesome. However, you're very easily in the bottom half of starting salaries if not lower.
  - meggar 10y ago
    I'm being ripped off too. graduated during the recession after the dotcom bubble, took the first dead-end dev job I could find, not exactly marketable experience.
    - jayzalowitz 10y ago
      email me your resume.
      - meggar 10y ago
        Will do, which email?
- borplk 10y ago
  but where though?
  - ddorian43 10y ago
    Probably Germany.
    - insulanian 10y ago
      Yes, Germany.
  - darklajid 10y ago
    Correct, as others noted: I'm from Germany.
- rebeccaskinner 10y ago
  I'm a developer with 10 years of experience living in the midwest and I'm making over 120k. Based on their calculator I'd actually take a reasonable pay cut if I wanted to go there.
- ap22213 10y ago
  I graduated 1999 and made $38k; Now make $190k (and I'm definitely not a top 1% candidate). Based on your assessment, I should expect to make a lot less in the future. But, yet people are contacting me weekly saying they can't fill positions at my salary level. It seems like you're doing something wrong.
easymovet 10y ago
They wouldn't dare list actual salaries because then they would have to pay everyone higher, just see what happened with lawyers: http://www.wsj.com/articles/law-firm-cravath-raising-starting-salaries-to-180-000-1465241318 http://www.wsj.com/articles/law-firm-cravath-raising-startin...
- easymovet 10y ago
  Unless they don't actually pay much which might be the case: https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Stack-Exchange-Salaries-E730438.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Stack-Exchange-Salaries-E73...
- jc4p 10y ago
  I'm a developer at Stack Overflow, my salary is $2,000 a year more than what the calculator spits out with Developer / 5 years experience / 3 skill (I was a 2.7 last compensation review, I believe)
arclyte 10y ago
Take that manager salary and switch to 'Developer' and the salary drops by a few grand, at most. Maybe in some companies - but I'm the lead of a project, responsible for multiple devs, projects, etc, and I'm only getting a few grand more than a dev who's only responsible for their own work...?
- ricardobeat 10y ago
  Are you being serious here?

These salaries seem SUPER high. Developer with 10 years experience at 120k? I'm making less than half of that and don't feel particularly ripped off. (I guess both of our comments don't help a lot in general, except to show that you personally don't seem to consider an application at SO while I'd love to do just that)

zaroth 10y ago
A competent developer with 10 years experience at less than $60k gross?! I imagine any sized company in any location in the US would hire that person in a heartbeat. If you are a productive developer in a common programming language with 10 years experience, you have decent communication skills, and are able to work in a team, earning less than $60k -- then you are significantly underpaid.
lloyd-christmas 10y ago
My starting salary was higher than your 10 year experience salary. You are WAY off the grid, even with quality-of-life arguments factored in. Unless you work less than 30 hours a week, you ARE getting ripped off. I don't know anyone who started with less than 60k other than my brother who was 3rd man in at a bootstrapped startup. If you enjoy your job, awesome. However, you're very easily in the bottom half of starting salaries if not lower.
- meggar 10y ago
  I'm being ripped off too. graduated during the recession after the dotcom bubble, took the first dead-end dev job I could find, not exactly marketable experience.
  - jayzalowitz 10y ago
    email me your resume.
    - meggar 10y ago
      Will do, which email?
borplk 10y ago
but where though?
- ddorian43 10y ago
  Probably Germany.
  - insulanian 10y ago
    Yes, Germany.
- darklajid 10y ago
  Correct, as others noted: I'm from Germany.
rebeccaskinner 10y ago
I'm a developer with 10 years of experience living in the midwest and I'm making over 120k. Based on their calculator I'd actually take a reasonable pay cut if I wanted to go there.
ap22213 10y ago
I graduated 1999 and made $38k; Now make $190k (and I'm definitely not a top 1% candidate). Based on your assessment, I should expect to make a lot less in the future. But, yet people are contacting me weekly saying they can't fill positions at my salary level. It seems like you're doing something wrong.

easymovet 10y ago

They wouldn't dare list actual salaries because then they would have to pay everyone higher, just see what happened with lawyers: http://www.wsj.com/articles/law-firm-cravath-raising-starting-salaries-to-180-000-1465241318 http://www.wsj.com/articles/law-firm-cravath-raising-startin...

easymovet 10y ago
Unless they don't actually pay much which might be the case: https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Stack-Exchange-Salaries-E730438.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Stack-Exchange-Salaries-E73...
jc4p 10y ago
I'm a developer at Stack Overflow, my salary is $2,000 a year more than what the calculator spits out with Developer / 5 years experience / 3 skill (I was a 2.7 last compensation review, I believe)

arclyte 10y ago

Take that manager salary and switch to 'Developer' and the salary drops by a few grand, at most. Maybe in some companies - but I'm the lead of a project, responsible for multiple devs, projects, etc, and I'm only getting a few grand more than a dev who's only responsible for their own work...?

ricardobeat 10y ago
Are you being serious here?