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Why windows? Won't that add to the price? Why not a linux "version" for 100$ less?

by FuNe 10y ago

nailer 10y ago
Linux (as in Linux/glibc/X/whatever) doesn't have a lot of native apps. Android though would rock.
- hcal 10y ago
  Is that a troll? Linux has tons of native applications in just about every category. It is absolutely packed with alternatives. I don't use Linux daily anymore, but I almost never had an issue finding programs for what ever task I wanted to accomplish. More often then not the problem was a glut of choices.
  - clmckinley 10y ago
    Yes lots of alternatives, you can argue that there is an alternative for virtually everything that is available if you are willing and know how to find it. This is the same argument that Windows Phone (ironically) make, but most people want the same programs that all of their friends run. Computers and most other electronics are appliances to most people they just want them to work without any thought.
    - hcal 10y ago
      It is fair to say that certain software doesn't run (or run well) on Linux. It is also fair to say that most people don't want to learn how to use new software especially when they already know something else that works. I think however, it is misleading at best to say that it doesn't have many native apps.
      - nailer 10y ago
        >I think however, it is misleading at best to say that it doesn't have many native apps. 'well known' is implied by basic logic: users don't want apps they haven't heard of before.
  - nailer 10y ago
    > Linux has tons of native applications in just about every category. Cool. Where's Word, Tinder, Instagram, Google Maps, Google Mail, Outlook and WhatsApp? I think there's a Linux Spotify, so you've got that. I love Linux (I'm ex Red Hat and IBM's Linux team) but Linux (as mentioned, Linux/glibc/X/whatever) lacks apps. > Is that a troll? Seriously?
    - squeaky-clean 10y ago
      > Cool. Where's Word, Tinder, Instagram, Google Maps, Google Mail, Outlook and WhatsApp? Where are any of these apps on Windows or OSX? Word is the only one with a native app, the rest are either mobile only, or browser based.
      - nailer 10y ago
        Well yes, desktop computing is dying. Hence suggesting Android.
cptskippy 10y ago
You're assuming they pay $100 for a Windows License. Or that building, validating, and supporting a Linux image would be cheaper in the long run than installing Windows and maintaining a few drivers. And that's not even taking into account the market demand for such a thing which is negligible.
damien 10y ago
I've heard OEMs make more money from pre-installing adware/spyware/trialware than what they pay for the Windows license. You can always decline the EULA and try to get a refund for the bundled Windows license. In Europe it is supposedly easy to get a refund due to a European Union directive on unfair commercial practices: http://no.more.racketware.info/en/europe http://no.more.racketware.info/en/europe
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Why windows? Won't that add to the price? Why not a linux "version" for 100$ less?

by FuNe 10y ago

Why windows? Won't that add to the price? Why not a linux "version" for 100$ less?

nailer 10y ago

Linux (as in Linux/glibc/X/whatever) doesn't have a lot of native apps. Android though would rock.

hcal 10y ago
Is that a troll? Linux has tons of native applications in just about every category. It is absolutely packed with alternatives. I don't use Linux daily anymore, but I almost never had an issue finding programs for what ever task I wanted to accomplish. More often then not the problem was a glut of choices.
- clmckinley 10y ago
  Yes lots of alternatives, you can argue that there is an alternative for virtually everything that is available if you are willing and know how to find it. This is the same argument that Windows Phone (ironically) make, but most people want the same programs that all of their friends run. Computers and most other electronics are appliances to most people they just want them to work without any thought.
  - hcal 10y ago
    It is fair to say that certain software doesn't run (or run well) on Linux. It is also fair to say that most people don't want to learn how to use new software especially when they already know something else that works. I think however, it is misleading at best to say that it doesn't have many native apps.
    - nailer 10y ago
      >I think however, it is misleading at best to say that it doesn't have many native apps. 'well known' is implied by basic logic: users don't want apps they haven't heard of before.
- nailer 10y ago
  > Linux has tons of native applications in just about every category. Cool. Where's Word, Tinder, Instagram, Google Maps, Google Mail, Outlook and WhatsApp? I think there's a Linux Spotify, so you've got that. I love Linux (I'm ex Red Hat and IBM's Linux team) but Linux (as mentioned, Linux/glibc/X/whatever) lacks apps. > Is that a troll? Seriously?
  - squeaky-clean 10y ago
    > Cool. Where's Word, Tinder, Instagram, Google Maps, Google Mail, Outlook and WhatsApp? Where are any of these apps on Windows or OSX? Word is the only one with a native app, the rest are either mobile only, or browser based.
    - nailer 10y ago
      Well yes, desktop computing is dying. Hence suggesting Android.

cptskippy 10y ago

You're assuming they pay $100 for a Windows License. Or that building, validating, and supporting a Linux image would be cheaper in the long run than installing Windows and maintaining a few drivers. And that's not even taking into account the market demand for such a thing which is negligible.

damien 10y ago

I've heard OEMs make more money from pre-installing adware/spyware/trialware than what they pay for the Windows license. You can always decline the EULA and try to get a refund for the bundled Windows license. In Europe it is supposedly easy to get a refund due to a European Union directive on unfair commercial practices: http://no.more.racketware.info/en/europe http://no.more.racketware.info/en/europe

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