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If one manufacturer keeps selling 85 of every new devices produced and another sells only 15 and this trend continues for 3 years now, I can say assured that on

by kbart 10y ago

If one manufacturer keeps selling 85 of every new devices produced and another sells only 15 and this trend continues for 3 years now, I can say assured that one's share is increasing fast, while other's declining. That's statistics and I'm not going down with "iOS vs Android" fanboys fight (I don't belong to either) which one is better. We can only talk about competition in selected few markets (though lucrative ones), but worldwide trend is clear.

macintux 10y ago
I....don't get your math. Additionally, Apple mobile devices are typically in use longer than Android (updates available, hardware+screen more robust than the majority of Android devices), so 85/15 sales doesn't translate directly into 85/15 install base.
- simonh 10y ago
  Very true. My youngest daughter is still using my old iPhone 3GS. Who is still using an Android phone from 2009? For context, this is what the leading Android handset looked like when the 3GS came out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Dream https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Dream
simonh 10y ago
>but worldwide trend is clear. And you're following that trend off a cognitive cliffe. Apple's market share is in high end devices. Sales for both Apple and every permium Android handset maker have stalled. So the market for premium phones is static and Apple isn't losing any market share in that space. All that's happened is that high end phones have reached saturation point so now it's about market share preservation instead of growth - at the high end. The only reason the overall market is tilted so highly towards Android is because the ultra low end market is exploding and that's all Android (actually, all AOSP). But that poses no threat to Apple whatsoever. It's completely irrelevant to them. If anything, the growing significance of AOSP is more of a threat to Google and their full-feature licensed Android.

by kbart 10y ago

macintux 10y ago

I....don't get your math. Additionally, Apple mobile devices are typically in use longer than Android (updates available, hardware+screen more robust than the majority of Android devices), so 85/15 sales doesn't translate directly into 85/15 install base.

simonh 10y ago
Very true. My youngest daughter is still using my old iPhone 3GS. Who is still using an Android phone from 2009? For context, this is what the leading Android handset looked like when the 3GS came out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Dream https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Dream

simonh 10y ago

>but worldwide trend is clear. And you're following that trend off a cognitive cliffe. Apple's market share is in high end devices. Sales for both Apple and every permium Android handset maker have stalled. So the market for premium phones is static and Apple isn't losing any market share in that space. All that's happened is that high end phones have reached saturation point so now it's about market share preservation instead of growth - at the high end. The only reason the overall market is tilted so highly towards Android is because the ultra low end market is exploding and that's all Android (actually, all AOSP). But that poses no threat to Apple whatsoever. It's completely irrelevant to them. If anything, the growing significance of AOSP is more of a threat to Google and their full-feature licensed Android.