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The problem is that most of your neighbours and friends would see you as the hippy idealist guy who gave up apples in vain, because while you don't use apples a
by corecoder 10y ago
The problem is that most of your neighbours and friends would see you as the hippy idealist guy who gave up apples in vain, because while you don't use apples anymore, airplanes full of apples keep flying, apples factories and farms keep producing and consuming apples, and apples provider ads keep showing how cheap apples are.
There's a sense of helplessness (learned helplessness, some would say), due to the perception that your efforts are pointless, as you are but a drop in the ocean.
- pmyjavec 10y agoThe word hippy and the negative connotations associated with it are fascinating to me, it's amazing how western societies have created a negative connotation to describe a person who is probably more caring, conscious and alternate thinking than your average citizen. Basically a hippy is someone guilty of 'thought crime'. It's an amazing device.
- JWLong 10y agoYou're more than welcome to continue to be fascinated... and ineffective. Sometimes you need to come down from your moral highground to meet the enemy.
- pmyjavec 10y agoThanks for validating my point :)
- r_smart 10y agoI used to hold an opinion of hippies similar to yours. Then 1. I watched the documentary on Woodstock and saw the disaster they made out of that place and 2. Spent a lot of time around my cousin and her friends when she was in art school. My conclusion was that hippies aren't any better or worse than other people. They suffer the same flaws as everyone else. The downside is that they seem to put forward this air of high-mindedness that rings pretty false to me. And they have worse hygiene :)
- colordrops 10y agoThere are hippies and there are trend following hedonists. You are talking about the latter.
- r_smart 10y agoNo true hippy?
- colordrops 10y agoWhatever the semantics and supposed logical fallacy, there are multiple groups of people that are categorized by the mainstream as "hippies", even though some of them are opposite in many ways.
- r_smart 10y agoI was referring to Woodstock, largely considered the high-water mark in hippy culture and my experience with hippies in my personal life when I was close to the group. You decided neither of those groups are hippies, though I have no idea what criteria you used to make that determination, or why you think it's accurate.
- Declanomous 10y agoWell apparently the farmer that hosted Woodstock was genuinely appreciative for everyone coming out there, and came out and thanked everyone on the last day of the festival. I agree with your sentiments overall though.
- r_smart 10y agoI'm just saying the movie shifted my perspective some. Also, IIRC, he got on the stage and thanked them while it was still going on. Before he saw the mountain of trash they left on his property.
- Scarblac 10y agoWhich is why we need government action, it's the only way. Unfortunately, many of the world's large countries are democracies, and it's hard to, say, ration meat consumption in them. It's too easy for power-seeking populist politicians to gather votes from people who like meat by telling them that sort of thing is nonsense and a left-wing conspiracy.
- merpnderp 10y agoOr we would see climate change leaders of the world driving armadas of vehicles, flying legions of people to their conferences, living in mansions, using the carbon footprint of a medium sized city, all while preaching we, the little people, need to put on a sweater in the winter and sweat more in the summer.