4 ms·

I'm not going to sign up because their marketing pitch for making the engine "free[sic]" doesn't specify if they mean it is actually free software or just grati

by cyphar 10y ago

I'm not going to sign up because their marketing pitch for making the engine "free[sic]" doesn't specify if they mean it is actually free software or just gratis + some proprietary source code you get a copy of. Do you know which is the case? My hunch is it's probably the latter because they ask for royalties.

bluesilver07 10y ago
It's free as in beer, and you get to look at the source code. It's not libre software.
- cyphar 10y ago
  sigh Figured as much.
  - stevehawk 10y ago
    ? you expect them to GPL a triple A game engine?
    - cyphar 10y ago
      Yes. Why not?
      - EvgeniyZh 10y ago
        Because they've spent tons of money on it and now want to earn something
        cyphar 10y ago
        >implying nobody can make money while respecting user freedom This has been debunked so many times I'm not going to bother.
        EvgeniyZh 10y ago
        Let me rephrase - why would they lose part of their money - much money? I can't see what would be their profit on releasing UE under open source license. Moreover, what would be profit of others except the right of copying their code?
        cyphar 10y ago
        > I can't see what would be their profit on releasing UE under open source license. They have already forgone a lot of potential revenue by allowing anyone to get the source code for the engine (under a proprietary license) without paying anything. The only thing left is to design a non-royalty revenue model that can work with a free software license. This has already been solved. > Moreover, what would be profit of others except the right of copying their code? Being able to release free software games using UE. Creating a community around UE that allows for innovation by that community. Porting to new platforms by that community. A show of good will to the free software community. There are many good reasons, but they all come about from giving people software freedom.
        EvgeniyZh 10y ago
        > They have already forgone a lot of potential revenue by allowing anyone to get the source code for the engine (under a proprietary license) without paying anything. They're making to pay only those who has profits from using their engine. Those who has no profits (i.e. less than $3000) wouldn't buy it anyway. > Being able to release free software games using UE. You can do that now. > Creating a community around UE that allows for innovation by that community. There is a community. > Porting to new platforms by that community. You can do that now. > There are many good reasons, but they all come about from giving people software freedom. I am for free software, but I don't like ideology in name of ideology.

by cyphar 10y ago

bluesilver07 10y ago

It's free as in beer, and you get to look at the source code. It's not libre software.

cyphar 10y ago
sigh Figured as much.
- stevehawk 10y ago
  ? you expect them to GPL a triple A game engine?
  - cyphar 10y ago
    Yes. Why not?
    - EvgeniyZh 10y ago
      Because they've spent tons of money on it and now want to earn something
      - cyphar 10y ago
        >implying nobody can make money while respecting user freedom This has been debunked so many times I'm not going to bother.
        EvgeniyZh 10y ago
        Let me rephrase - why would they lose part of their money - much money? I can't see what would be their profit on releasing UE under open source license. Moreover, what would be profit of others except the right of copying their code?
        cyphar 10y ago
        > I can't see what would be their profit on releasing UE under open source license. They have already forgone a lot of potential revenue by allowing anyone to get the source code for the engine (under a proprietary license) without paying anything. The only thing left is to design a non-royalty revenue model that can work with a free software license. This has already been solved. > Moreover, what would be profit of others except the right of copying their code? Being able to release free software games using UE. Creating a community around UE that allows for innovation by that community. Porting to new platforms by that community. A show of good will to the free software community. There are many good reasons, but they all come about from giving people software freedom.
        EvgeniyZh 10y ago
        > They have already forgone a lot of potential revenue by allowing anyone to get the source code for the engine (under a proprietary license) without paying anything. They're making to pay only those who has profits from using their engine. Those who has no profits (i.e. less than $3000) wouldn't buy it anyway. > Being able to release free software games using UE. You can do that now. > Creating a community around UE that allows for innovation by that community. There is a community. > Porting to new platforms by that community. You can do that now. > There are many good reasons, but they all come about from giving people software freedom. I am for free software, but I don't like ideology in name of ideology.