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There is a dating problem?

by JacksonGariety 10y ago

wyred 10y ago
What is this dating thing everyone seems to be talking about?
woliveirajr 10y ago
I thought Tinder had it solved...
- dripton 10y ago
  Tinder is Trent in this protocol. As long as both Alice and Bob trust Trent, that works. But Trent can cheat.
  - Kalium 10y ago
    And then the Russians might control our love lives!
    - flukus 10y ago
      I'm prepared to give them a go at this point, they can't do a worse job of it than me.
  - drauh 10y ago
    See Ashley Madison?
- twokwy 10y ago
  Yeah, Tinder achieves exactly the objective described of both parties only finding out if both parties' responses are 1. (And suffers from the issue they discuss where 'detectable cheating' - in this case, swiping right regardless to maximise information gain - is difficult to prevent). But, as others have mentioned, it relies on the trusted third party, that is to say Tinder, being trustworthy and not performing what the paper amusingly refers to as a 'Matchmaker In The Middle' attack.
joshuakcockrell 10y ago
> The problem concerns two agents Alice and Bob (or Alex and Bob, or Alice and Beatrice), each of whom may or may not have a crush on the other. Each is initially unaware of the other’s feelings, and if they have a crush, they would like to know whether the other does as well; however, each would like to reveal their crush only if the other shares the interest.
- FeepingCreature 10y ago
  This does not just apply to crushes but also more specific sexual interests. Unfortunately, the fact that you want your partner to use a service such as this already leaks that your interest is unusual or socially frowned upon.
  - gizmo686 10y ago
    That is not necessarily a problem. I would not mind leaking the fact that there exists a sexual interest I have that is embarrassing, as long as I do not leak what that interest is. In fact, I have publicly said that I have sexual preferences that I do not want to be known on multiple occasions. Incidently, an MFP like service already exists for this usecase [0]. [0] http://mojoupgrade.com/ http://mojoupgrade.com/
  - flukus 10y ago
    What percentage of people have an interest like that though? If I had to pull a number from nowhere I would say at least 50%, so using the service shouldn't be particularly damning.

There is a dating problem?

wyred 10y ago

What is this dating thing everyone seems to be talking about?

woliveirajr 10y ago

I thought Tinder had it solved...

dripton 10y ago
Tinder is Trent in this protocol. As long as both Alice and Bob trust Trent, that works. But Trent can cheat.
- Kalium 10y ago
  And then the Russians might control our love lives!
  - flukus 10y ago
    I'm prepared to give them a go at this point, they can't do a worse job of it than me.
- drauh 10y ago
  See Ashley Madison?
twokwy 10y ago
Yeah, Tinder achieves exactly the objective described of both parties only finding out if both parties' responses are 1. (And suffers from the issue they discuss where 'detectable cheating' - in this case, swiping right regardless to maximise information gain - is difficult to prevent). But, as others have mentioned, it relies on the trusted third party, that is to say Tinder, being trustworthy and not performing what the paper amusingly refers to as a 'Matchmaker In The Middle' attack.

joshuakcockrell 10y ago

> The problem concerns two agents Alice and Bob (or Alex and Bob, or Alice and Beatrice), each of whom may or may not have a crush on the other. Each is initially unaware of the other’s feelings, and if they have a crush, they would like to know whether the other does as well; however, each would like to reveal their crush only if the other shares the interest.

FeepingCreature 10y ago
This does not just apply to crushes but also more specific sexual interests. Unfortunately, the fact that you want your partner to use a service such as this already leaks that your interest is unusual or socially frowned upon.
- gizmo686 10y ago
  That is not necessarily a problem. I would not mind leaking the fact that there exists a sexual interest I have that is embarrassing, as long as I do not leak what that interest is. In fact, I have publicly said that I have sexual preferences that I do not want to be known on multiple occasions. Incidently, an MFP like service already exists for this usecase [0]. [0] http://mojoupgrade.com/ http://mojoupgrade.com/
- flukus 10y ago
  What percentage of people have an interest like that though? If I had to pull a number from nowhere I would say at least 50%, so using the service shouldn't be particularly damning.