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> Previously: hhtpttpp://faceblablah.com/techmumbo/jumbo?not=h4ck3r. Now: <lock icon>facebooook.com.ru => "wow this really is not Facebook!". I basically witnes

by zeveb 10y ago

> Previously: hhtpttpp://faceblablah.com/techmumbo/jumbo?not=h4ck3r. Now: <lock icon>facebooook.com.ru => "wow this really is not Facebook!". I basically witnessed such behaviour change first hand. Anyone who does that is uneducated and ignorant; the proper response to that is to educate, not to remove the ability of those who are educated to do other things.

collyw 10y ago
Everyone should be using the command line if that argument were true. Its much more efficient for most purposes once you know it well.
- xyproto 10y ago
  Using that argument, having a keyboard is too advanced as well. A microphone and a pointing device should be enough. And it is, but we all know not having one kills productivity.
- zeveb 10y ago
  > Everyone should be using the command line if that argument were true. Well, yes — they should. Would you rather communicate with speech or by pointing and grunting? We do need better languages for conversing with our computers, but we can't get rid of the need for language.
  - comex 10y ago
    They should... and they do, in the form of Siri! I hope someday it outgrows its current limitation to relatively simple tasks.
    - collyw 10y ago
      Is Siri big in the US? Here in Europe I see a lot of people with iPhones but I have never seen anyone use Siri. I have seen my friend attempt whatsapp messages via the vice recognition thing while he is driving, but it looks way more hassle than what it is worth.
firloop 10y ago
"The people who are educated" can turn the full URL display back on in Safari's settings.
runjake 10y ago
In Safari Settings: Advanced->Check "Show full website address"
eyelidlessness 10y ago
Years of education have been horribly ineffective, which is why phishing continues to work. Meanwhile, the ignorant audience keeps growing. A whole lot of UX work is about making ambiguous things less ambiguous and making the "right" or "safe" choice the default. In those scenarios, the best UX will make the non-default choice available with some additional effort (changing settings, diving deeper), which this feature in Safari absolutely does. Hang on to your hat, because every other browser has been playing with the exact same feature, for the exact same set of reasons.
- gutnor 10y ago
  > Years of education have been horribly ineffective It should be obvious by just looking how social engineering is working and have been using the same tricks for literally thousands of years. Classic children literature, before modernisation (like Disney), gives you a good idea on the same lessons needed to be taught then.
BurningFrog 10y ago
> the proper response to that is to educate, not to remove the ability of those who are educated to do other things As a software developer, only one of those things are in your power.

by zeveb 10y ago

collyw 10y ago

Everyone should be using the command line if that argument were true. Its much more efficient for most purposes once you know it well.

xyproto 10y ago
Using that argument, having a keyboard is too advanced as well. A microphone and a pointing device should be enough. And it is, but we all know not having one kills productivity.
zeveb 10y ago
> Everyone should be using the command line if that argument were true. Well, yes — they should. Would you rather communicate with speech or by pointing and grunting? We do need better languages for conversing with our computers, but we can't get rid of the need for language.
- comex 10y ago
  They should... and they do, in the form of Siri! I hope someday it outgrows its current limitation to relatively simple tasks.
  - collyw 10y ago
    Is Siri big in the US? Here in Europe I see a lot of people with iPhones but I have never seen anyone use Siri. I have seen my friend attempt whatsapp messages via the vice recognition thing while he is driving, but it looks way more hassle than what it is worth.

firloop 10y ago

"The people who are educated" can turn the full URL display back on in Safari's settings.

runjake 10y ago

In Safari Settings: Advanced->Check "Show full website address"

eyelidlessness 10y ago

Years of education have been horribly ineffective, which is why phishing continues to work. Meanwhile, the ignorant audience keeps growing. A whole lot of UX work is about making ambiguous things less ambiguous and making the "right" or "safe" choice the default. In those scenarios, the best UX will make the non-default choice available with some additional effort (changing settings, diving deeper), which this feature in Safari absolutely does. Hang on to your hat, because every other browser has been playing with the exact same feature, for the exact same set of reasons.

gutnor 10y ago
> Years of education have been horribly ineffective It should be obvious by just looking how social engineering is working and have been using the same tricks for literally thousands of years. Classic children literature, before modernisation (like Disney), gives you a good idea on the same lessons needed to be taught then.

BurningFrog 10y ago

> the proper response to that is to educate, not to remove the ability of those who are educated to do other things As a software developer, only one of those things are in your power.