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> I hate how Safari hides the full address in the address bar, for instance. You have no idea how much this change makes the URL field palatable for regular Jo

by lloeki 10y ago

> I hate how Safari hides the full address in the address bar, for instance. You have no idea how much this change makes the URL field palatable for regular Joe. Previously: hhtpttpp://faceblablah.com/techmumbo/jumbo?not=h4ck3r. Now: <lock icon>facebooook.com.ru => "wow this really is not Facebook!". I basically witnessed such behaviour change first hand. > Or, how they removed scrollbars and force people to actually scroll every piece of the interface to check if there's something more to see, while before you could tell just by looking at scrollbars. No need to scroll, you can check just by resting fingers on the touchpad (except in Chrome) and look at the scrollbars.

zaphoyd 10y ago
> No need to scroll, you can check just by resting fingers on the touchpad (except in Chrome) and look at the scrollbars. Never knew this, really handy, thanks! Any idea if it is possible on a magic mouse? or only the trackpads?
- tacon 10y ago
  And there you have demonstrated the entire thesis of the original article.
  - stouset 10y ago
    Except it's infinitely easier to slightly drag your hands on the trackpad your fingers are already on, than to glance over at the side of a window, identify a scroll bar, and glance back to the content you were viewing.
- eyelidlessness 10y ago
  For an extra hint, when a view loads with scrollable content (or becomes scrollable as content is added), it tends to flash the scrollbar briefly.
menelaus35 10y ago
Also, Safari don't hide scrollbars when you don't have a touchpad.
zeveb 10y ago
> Previously: hhtpttpp://faceblablah.com/techmumbo/jumbo?not=h4ck3r. Now: <lock icon>facebooook.com.ru => "wow this really is not Facebook!". I basically witnessed such behaviour change first hand. Anyone who does that is uneducated and ignorant; the proper response to that is to educate, not to remove the ability of those who are educated to do other things.
- collyw 10y ago
  Everyone should be using the command line if that argument were true. Its much more efficient for most purposes once you know it well.
  - xyproto 10y ago
    Using that argument, having a keyboard is too advanced as well. A microphone and a pointing device should be enough. And it is, but we all know not having one kills productivity.
  - zeveb 10y ago
    > Everyone should be using the command line if that argument were true. Well, yes — they should. Would you rather communicate with speech or by pointing and grunting? We do need better languages for conversing with our computers, but we can't get rid of the need for language.
    - comex 10y ago
      They should... and they do, in the form of Siri! I hope someday it outgrows its current limitation to relatively simple tasks.
      - collyw 10y ago
        Is Siri big in the US? Here in Europe I see a lot of people with iPhones but I have never seen anyone use Siri. I have seen my friend attempt whatsapp messages via the vice recognition thing while he is driving, but it looks way more hassle than what it is worth.
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standardhuman 10y ago
On the first point, you can just open Safari's preferences, head to the Advanced tab, and "show full website address." This is one of the first things I do, as I also dislike this behavior. :)

by lloeki 10y ago

zaphoyd 10y ago

> No need to scroll, you can check just by resting fingers on the touchpad (except in Chrome) and look at the scrollbars. Never knew this, really handy, thanks! Any idea if it is possible on a magic mouse? or only the trackpads?

tacon 10y ago
And there you have demonstrated the entire thesis of the original article.
- stouset 10y ago
  Except it's infinitely easier to slightly drag your hands on the trackpad your fingers are already on, than to glance over at the side of a window, identify a scroll bar, and glance back to the content you were viewing.
eyelidlessness 10y ago
For an extra hint, when a view loads with scrollable content (or becomes scrollable as content is added), it tends to flash the scrollbar briefly.

menelaus35 10y ago

Also, Safari don't hide scrollbars when you don't have a touchpad.

zeveb 10y ago

> Previously: hhtpttpp://faceblablah.com/techmumbo/jumbo?not=h4ck3r. Now: <lock icon>facebooook.com.ru => "wow this really is not Facebook!". I basically witnessed such behaviour change first hand. Anyone who does that is uneducated and ignorant; the proper response to that is to educate, not to remove the ability of those who are educated to do other things.

collyw 10y ago
Everyone should be using the command line if that argument were true. Its much more efficient for most purposes once you know it well.
- xyproto 10y ago
  Using that argument, having a keyboard is too advanced as well. A microphone and a pointing device should be enough. And it is, but we all know not having one kills productivity.
- zeveb 10y ago
  > Everyone should be using the command line if that argument were true. Well, yes — they should. Would you rather communicate with speech or by pointing and grunting? We do need better languages for conversing with our computers, but we can't get rid of the need for language.
  - comex 10y ago
    They should... and they do, in the form of Siri! I hope someday it outgrows its current limitation to relatively simple tasks.
    - collyw 10y ago
      Is Siri big in the US? Here in Europe I see a lot of people with iPhones but I have never seen anyone use Siri. I have seen my friend attempt whatsapp messages via the vice recognition thing while he is driving, but it looks way more hassle than what it is worth.

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standardhuman 10y ago

On the first point, you can just open Safari's preferences, head to the Advanced tab, and "show full website address." This is one of the first things I do, as I also dislike this behavior. :)