The point I was (clearly too subtly) trying to make is that if you're going to use an imperfect solution in the name of getting it in the hands of more users, y

The point I was (clearly too subtly) trying to make is that if you're going to use an imperfect solution in the name of getting it in the hands of more users, you might as well use TOTP and make concessions - it can be more accessible than SMS auth, which has so many problems attached to it, it's hard to understand why it's getting defended on HN anymore.