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> Tell me exactly how an Apple car will be better than my existing petrol-powered car. Not in an abstract sense, for me. Nope. Can't explain it in a way you'll

> Tell me exactly how an Apple car will be better than my existing petrol-powered car. Not in an abstract sense, for me. Nope. Can't explain it in a way you'll feel it. Doesn't mean it's not a thing though. I thought the Tesla Model S was an understated 4 door sedan with a novel but fatally flawed propulsion technology. Then I spent a day in one. It was enough to convince me to plop down the deposit for a Model 3 sight unseen. And there's still nothing wrong with my Toyota 4 Runner. But if Tesla makes a light SUV I'm buying it. It's just ... better.

gambiting 10y ago
As someone who drove a Tesla S here in UK - the only cool things about that car were the dashboard display(where your speedo is normally) and the quiet drive paired with stupid acceleration. Other than that, it had fantastically poor interior, plastic everywhere(I've noticed this in almost all American cars - even very expensive Chevrolets, Chryslers, US-spec Fords are just full of plastic for some reason). The huge screen is awesome for first few minutes, and then you realize you can't change temperature without looking down - who thought that putting everything on a touchscreen was a good idea?? I guess I would maybe buy one for the fuel saving? But seriously, I would much rather buy a BMW/Audi/Merc/Jaguar for the same price, unless my main priority was fuel saving.
- noir-york 10y ago
  That's not fair! You are comparing European car-makers with US ones :P Joking aside, I have to agree - once you've been inside a modern Audi/Merc/Beemer, you do have to wonder what all the fuss about Tesla is. Its not like Tesla has a monopoly on attractive electric cars: the i8 is gorgeous.
  - ryanmarsh 10y ago
    I have not been in an i8, but the Tesla made me a believer in electric. If BWM is serious about electrics then Tesla might be in trouble. BMW's repair record has had its ups and downs over the years. If they get that right and the software right I might be inclined to go with the Beemer.

gambiting 10y ago

As someone who drove a Tesla S here in UK - the only cool things about that car were the dashboard display(where your speedo is normally) and the quiet drive paired with stupid acceleration. Other than that, it had fantastically poor interior, plastic everywhere(I've noticed this in almost all American cars - even very expensive Chevrolets, Chryslers, US-spec Fords are just full of plastic for some reason). The huge screen is awesome for first few minutes, and then you realize you can't change temperature without looking down - who thought that putting everything on a touchscreen was a good idea?? I guess I would maybe buy one for the fuel saving? But seriously, I would much rather buy a BMW/Audi/Merc/Jaguar for the same price, unless my main priority was fuel saving.

noir-york 10y ago
That's not fair! You are comparing European car-makers with US ones :P Joking aside, I have to agree - once you've been inside a modern Audi/Merc/Beemer, you do have to wonder what all the fuss about Tesla is. Its not like Tesla has a monopoly on attractive electric cars: the i8 is gorgeous.
- ryanmarsh 10y ago
  I have not been in an i8, but the Tesla made me a believer in electric. If BWM is serious about electrics then Tesla might be in trouble. BMW's repair record has had its ups and downs over the years. If they get that right and the software right I might be inclined to go with the Beemer.