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> the idea that someone thinks they can commandeer my undivided attention for _any_ amount of time is offensive to me. But you're participating in the framewor

> the idea that someone thinks they can commandeer my undivided attention for _any_ amount of time is offensive to me. But you're participating in the framework that permits such commandeering by carrying an addressable cell phone. Society's general expectation is that someone who volunteers to buy and operate a voice-enabled phone is willing to be called. Why not buy a data-only SIM if you disagree with that fundamental premise?

piotrkaminski 10y ago
Presumably because he wants to be able to dial out for emergencies, and to call people who don't use instant messaging or email (e.g., local businesses, or <shudder> taxi dispatch). Plus there's the fact that many official forms require a phone number of some sort, and it seems less evil to provide a number you own but don't answer than a random one.
Veratyr 10y ago
I keep the SMS/voice service because: - Being able to call out is handy for interacting with antiquated infrastructure at e.g. banks, government agencies and cable companies. - There are times when I'm willing to receive scheduled calls from e.g. my accountant, my bank (fraud checks) or phone number verification for online services. - Being able to receive SMS is handy for verification and notifications of things like Amazon deliveries and Lyft pickups, while not being intrusive. - I haven't found a data-only SIM that gives me unlimited bandwidth. And I disagree that "someone who volunteers to buy and operate a voice-enabled phone is willing to be called", despite it being the norm in the past. A phone is no longer the voice + SMS device that it once was (and when it was, I would have agreed with you). It's now a small, convenient and easy to use computer, that just so happens to have a phone built in (and impossible to acquire without it).

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> the idea that someone thinks they can commandeer my undivided attention for _any_ amount of time is offensive to me. But you're participating in the framewor

by dingaling 10y ago

piotrkaminski 10y ago
Presumably because he wants to be able to dial out for emergencies, and to call people who don't use instant messaging or email (e.g., local businesses, or <shudder> taxi dispatch). Plus there's the fact that many official forms require a phone number of some sort, and it seems less evil to provide a number you own but don't answer than a random one.
Veratyr 10y ago
I keep the SMS/voice service because: - Being able to call out is handy for interacting with antiquated infrastructure at e.g. banks, government agencies and cable companies. - There are times when I'm willing to receive scheduled calls from e.g. my accountant, my bank (fraud checks) or phone number verification for online services. - Being able to receive SMS is handy for verification and notifications of things like Amazon deliveries and Lyft pickups, while not being intrusive. - I haven't found a data-only SIM that gives me unlimited bandwidth. And I disagree that "someone who volunteers to buy and operate a voice-enabled phone is willing to be called", despite it being the norm in the past. A phone is no longer the voice + SMS device that it once was (and when it was, I would have agreed with you). It's now a small, convenient and easy to use computer, that just so happens to have a phone built in (and impossible to acquire without it).