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I concur with rpgmaker that it's bullshit to say that the existing technology "blows". Tell me exactly how an Apple car will be better than my existing petrol-

I concur with rpgmaker that it's bullshit to say that the existing technology "blows". Tell me exactly how an Apple car will be better than my existing petrol-powered car. Not in an abstract sense, for me. With the iPhone, we had the full web (as opposed to only the mobile web), a large screen, a touch interface, only one button, and (in 2.0) apps. These made the iPhone far better than older phones. What's the equivalent for cars?

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nardi 10y ago
Everyone really liked their crappy Palm Treos in 2007 too. No one but Apple saw the future of smartphones.
- kartickv 10y ago
  I agree with that, but you haven't given any information or insight to substantiate your claim that the Apple car will be the next iPhone. Merely saying "it will be awesome!" doesn't convince anyone :)
  - nardi 10y ago
    I can only point to the fact that cars and transportation in general are obviously about to be heavily disrupted by software--in many ways. Just like phones and communications in 2006.
ryanmarsh 10y ago
> Tell me exactly how an Apple car will be better than my existing petrol-powered car. Not in an abstract sense, for me. Nope. Can't explain it in a way you'll feel it. Doesn't mean it's not a thing though. I thought the Tesla Model S was an understated 4 door sedan with a novel but fatally flawed propulsion technology. Then I spent a day in one. It was enough to convince me to plop down the deposit for a Model 3 sight unseen. And there's still nothing wrong with my Toyota 4 Runner. But if Tesla makes a light SUV I'm buying it. It's just ... better.
- gambiting 10y ago
  As someone who drove a Tesla S here in UK - the only cool things about that car were the dashboard display(where your speedo is normally) and the quiet drive paired with stupid acceleration. Other than that, it had fantastically poor interior, plastic everywhere(I've noticed this in almost all American cars - even very expensive Chevrolets, Chryslers, US-spec Fords are just full of plastic for some reason). The huge screen is awesome for first few minutes, and then you realize you can't change temperature without looking down - who thought that putting everything on a touchscreen was a good idea?? I guess I would maybe buy one for the fuel saving? But seriously, I would much rather buy a BMW/Audi/Merc/Jaguar for the same price, unless my main priority was fuel saving.
  - noir-york 10y ago
    That's not fair! You are comparing European car-makers with US ones :P Joking aside, I have to agree - once you've been inside a modern Audi/Merc/Beemer, you do have to wonder what all the fuss about Tesla is. Its not like Tesla has a monopoly on attractive electric cars: the i8 is gorgeous.
    - ryanmarsh 10y ago
      I have not been in an i8, but the Tesla made me a believer in electric. If BWM is serious about electrics then Tesla might be in trouble. BMW's repair record has had its ups and downs over the years. If they get that right and the software right I might be inclined to go with the Beemer.
matt4077 10y ago
Well, that's the exact question that Apple is trying to answer. It's funny how easy it seems to be to dismiss the genius of the iPhone. I guess it's a hallmark of good design that it seems completely obvious after you've seen it. Regarding the car, long-range electric drive and self-driving capabilities are "obvious" improvements that would hit "revolutionary" on the scale. But those are still problems of basic science and I doubt that Apple can get there faster than all of the competition combined.
- apapli 10y ago
  I'd say long range and self driving is evolutionary not revolutionary. They won't exactly be unexpected when they land... It's a when not if scenario.
- kartickv 10y ago
  My petrol car has a long range. I don't think anyone will be impressed by a car with a long range.

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nardi 10y ago

Everyone really liked their crappy Palm Treos in 2007 too. No one but Apple saw the future of smartphones.

kartickv 10y ago
I agree with that, but you haven't given any information or insight to substantiate your claim that the Apple car will be the next iPhone. Merely saying "it will be awesome!" doesn't convince anyone :)
- nardi 10y ago
  I can only point to the fact that cars and transportation in general are obviously about to be heavily disrupted by software--in many ways. Just like phones and communications in 2006.

ryanmarsh 10y ago

> Tell me exactly how an Apple car will be better than my existing petrol-powered car. Not in an abstract sense, for me. Nope. Can't explain it in a way you'll feel it. Doesn't mean it's not a thing though. I thought the Tesla Model S was an understated 4 door sedan with a novel but fatally flawed propulsion technology. Then I spent a day in one. It was enough to convince me to plop down the deposit for a Model 3 sight unseen. And there's still nothing wrong with my Toyota 4 Runner. But if Tesla makes a light SUV I'm buying it. It's just ... better.

gambiting 10y ago
As someone who drove a Tesla S here in UK - the only cool things about that car were the dashboard display(where your speedo is normally) and the quiet drive paired with stupid acceleration. Other than that, it had fantastically poor interior, plastic everywhere(I've noticed this in almost all American cars - even very expensive Chevrolets, Chryslers, US-spec Fords are just full of plastic for some reason). The huge screen is awesome for first few minutes, and then you realize you can't change temperature without looking down - who thought that putting everything on a touchscreen was a good idea?? I guess I would maybe buy one for the fuel saving? But seriously, I would much rather buy a BMW/Audi/Merc/Jaguar for the same price, unless my main priority was fuel saving.
- noir-york 10y ago
  That's not fair! You are comparing European car-makers with US ones :P Joking aside, I have to agree - once you've been inside a modern Audi/Merc/Beemer, you do have to wonder what all the fuss about Tesla is. Its not like Tesla has a monopoly on attractive electric cars: the i8 is gorgeous.
  - ryanmarsh 10y ago
    I have not been in an i8, but the Tesla made me a believer in electric. If BWM is serious about electrics then Tesla might be in trouble. BMW's repair record has had its ups and downs over the years. If they get that right and the software right I might be inclined to go with the Beemer.

matt4077 10y ago

Well, that's the exact question that Apple is trying to answer. It's funny how easy it seems to be to dismiss the genius of the iPhone. I guess it's a hallmark of good design that it seems completely obvious after you've seen it. Regarding the car, long-range electric drive and self-driving capabilities are "obvious" improvements that would hit "revolutionary" on the scale. But those are still problems of basic science and I doubt that Apple can get there faster than all of the competition combined.

apapli 10y ago
I'd say long range and self driving is evolutionary not revolutionary. They won't exactly be unexpected when they land... It's a when not if scenario.
kartickv 10y ago
My petrol car has a long range. I don't think anyone will be impressed by a car with a long range.