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I've thought a lot about this and don't think that full autonomy is necessary for Apple's car to be successful. I don't even think they need to be anywhere near
by guimarin 10y ago
I've thought a lot about this and don't think that full autonomy is necessary for Apple's car to be successful. I don't even think they need to be anywhere near as good as Tesla. In fact, they probably can't because Tesla Autopilot gets better through the experience of the cars, and that kind of software data expertise is not in Apple's wheelhouse.
Recently I've tested all the auto-sensing, autopilot, and what not features of the latest generation of cars. I've gone on dozens of test drives and I think that something around as good as Honda Sensing will be sufficient for the next car cycle (5-7 years). If they can make iterative improvments that will be even better, but I don't think we are as close to the kind of car Apple would want to sell in the autonomy field. Well understood driving cities like NYC and SF are just not a big enough splash for Apple.
Why Apple will be very successful: Recently they've started to revamp and expand their retail Flagship stores all over the world have recently been remodeled, all to be much larger. I think this footprint of stores, larger than Teslas, will be huge in getting people to buy the cars, thereby circumventing the dealership model. Tesla was the pioneer here, and Apple will ride on their coattails. Apple has incredibly supply chain leverage and capability. In the last 5 years, the cost of batteries has gone down significantly. Yet all the hybrid cars utilizing batteries are still very expensive. The brand new Volvo XC90 is $20k more expensive for a 9kWh pack. With Apple's supply chain and margin control capabilities, they should be able to comfortably source Li-Ion batteries in the $200-$300 range per kWh. Apple also crushes every single other computer and phone manufacturer when it comes to their onboarding experience. This and their experience in UI/UX will be key. The knob-less experience in cars is total dogshit. No one does a good job of realizing that the user experience should not be a monolithic touchscreen for things that are NOT media related. Sure make all Media touchscreen enabled/driven. But not the AC/Heat, and in my mind the volume for the AV system at the lest. If apple can solve that, and make it easy to pair a phone with the infotainment system, then with their competitive pricing and superior experience they will destroy the competition. All the legacy manufacturers are still stuck in the wrong paradigm. Only Tesla is positioned to compete with Apple, it's a shame they didn't buy Tesla earlier and let Musk run both companies. Tim is great don't get me wrong, but with Musk at the helm they would have been totally unstoppable. Tim is a genius at what he does, but he's not the kind of visionary CEO that can launch the car like an Elon or Steve could.
- threeseed 10y ago> and that kind of software data expertise is not in Apple's wheelhouse I suspect Apple knows just a little about data science given all of the data they collect: https://www.quora.com/Whats-a-typical-day-like-for-a-data-scientist-at-Apple https://www.quora.com/Whats-a-typical-day-like-for-a-data-sc... Also they just took a major stake in Didi Chuxing which I assume meant they had access to a raft of GPS points to use for training machine/deep learning models.
- chillacy 10y agoThe responder doesn't even work at apple (from his other post: "I'm not an engineer at apple" https://www.quora.com/What-does-a-day-in-the-life-of-an-Apple-hardware-engineer-look-like https://www.quora.com/What-does-a-day-in-the-life-of-an-Appl... ). His response was also vague enough to apply to most tech companies. I thought it was suspect, since apple employees tend to be very quiet on social media and in conferences.
- maxerickson 10y agoThe price premium on the 2017 Lincoln MKZ hybrid is $0. I don't think the battery tells the whole cost story.