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As a consequence of all this: it is hard to find software developers (are they still middle class?) to work in offices in Vancouver core. The only reasonable o
by c-smile 10y ago
As a consequence of all this: it is hard to find software developers (are they still middle class?) to work in offices in Vancouver core.
The only reasonable option to live for devs is in 1.5-2 hours away of driving and public transit. 2-3 hours per day wasted in traffic just to get to and back from the office is too much. Half of the time spent in traffic are considered (or should) as working hours - thus increased salary demand as de facto there are not 8 but 9-10 working hours per day.
Big software houses shall consider moving R&D offices outside of Vancouver (core) I think.
- yazaddaruvala 10y agoI grew up in Vancouver, went to high-school there, whet to UBC there. My family is in Vancouver. The majority of my friends are in Vancouver. I own real-estate in Vancouver. I eventually want to move back to Vancouver. I can safely say I love Vancouver. However, I currently live in Seattle. > "it is hard to find software developers ... to work in ... Vancouver" Plain and simply, even though software developers make some of the highest salaries in Vancouver, the salaries are relatively abysmal. It would be an effective 50% pay cut for me to move to Vancouver. The housing crisis is a problem, but its not one that effects the lack of talent in Vancouver. Vancouver's almost only tech talent problem is the lack of competitive salaries.
- maerF0x0 10y agoI saw a posting the other day for a Senior backend Golang developer - $60k. I laughed so hard. I made about that much straight out of school.
- briandear 10y agoI saw a senior Rails contract job in Toronto that was paying $40 per hour and a mid-level Rails Dev at $15 per hour. I find that rather hilarious as well.
- lawnchair_larry 10y agoIt is easy to find developers in Vancouver. You just have to actually pay them, which companies in Vancouver are not willing to do for some reason.
- briandear 10y agoSoftware development should be remote. Zero reason for me to drive X hours to look at a computer screen and use Slack when I can do that exact same thing from my house. Companies can save huge on office space and employees can save the commute as wel as improving the environment by not commuting each day. Sitting around a whiteboard once per sprint isn't very good justification for working on site.