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> So will this bill reduce, increase or have no effect on the attacks? Many of the recent attacks, particularly those in the past week in Germany and in Nice,

> So will this bill reduce, increase or have no effect on the attacks? Many of the recent attacks, particularly those in the past week in Germany and in Nice, France, don't appear to have involved extensive planning. If that's the case, then it would follow that there wasn't much communication to monitor. Therefore this bill would have no effect on the attacks or attackers. However, the increased access to information by the spying services may result in many more false positives and either an increase in resources needed to sustain the service, or a drop in effectiveness, perhaps leading to an increase in the number of successful attacks. [1] > If not, then what would reduce the attacks and why are the authorities not doing it already? The Aarhus model [2] appears to be effective, but perhaps is difficult to "sell" politically? Maybe bulk data collection and machine learning are being presented as a "silver bullet", and quicker than training up many police officers and giving the time for them to regain the trust of the communities they serve. [1] https://techcrunch.com/2016/06/07/new-snowden-document-reveals-uk-spy-agency-warned-of-too-much-data-risk-in-2010/ https://techcrunch.com/2016/06/07/new-snowden-document-revea... [2] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/23/home-jihadi-denmark-radical-islamic-extremism-aarhus-model-scandinavia https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/23/home-jihadi-de...

blowski 10y ago
I will definitely read about the "Aarhus Model" - it truly is what I believe we should be doing a lot more of. However, I'd be interested in seeing what critics say about it, and some authoritative data. You're probably right about the other stuff as well. Personally, I'm as worried about the links between the recent attacks, mental illness and poverty as I am about radical Islam. The governments are probably being oversold on what's possible with the technology, as well as how secure it will all be. However, I do think there needs to be some kind of quicker fix. These attacks are playing into the hands of the extreme right (and left), so something needs to be done quickly if only to prevent us electing Donald Trump and his ilk.

blowski 10y ago

I will definitely read about the "Aarhus Model" - it truly is what I believe we should be doing a lot more of. However, I'd be interested in seeing what critics say about it, and some authoritative data. You're probably right about the other stuff as well. Personally, I'm as worried about the links between the recent attacks, mental illness and poverty as I am about radical Islam. The governments are probably being oversold on what's possible with the technology, as well as how secure it will all be. However, I do think there needs to be some kind of quicker fix. These attacks are playing into the hands of the extreme right (and left), so something needs to be done quickly if only to prevent us electing Donald Trump and his ilk.