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UK is being watched by a network of 1.85m CCTV cameras. EDIT: Curious how stating a fact is worth downvotes. What am I missing?

by nxzero 10y ago

saintwind 10y ago
You can't state facts that go against the hivemind here, otherwise a downvote will occur.
- CarolineW 10y ago
  It's demonstrably not a fact, and it doesn't add to the discussion. Add constructively to the discussion and contrary opinions are not only tolerated, but engaged.
  - EdHominem 10y ago
    The comment is factual. It's not relevant who owns the cameras. Look at any major incident in the UK recently and the police have CCTV footage from private businesses. Either voluntarily given or subpoenaed.
    - CarolineW 10y ago
      The comment was: > UK is being watched by a > network of 1.85m CCTV cameras. It's not a network - the comment was not factually correct. I was answering the question and explaining my understanding of a likely cause for the downvotes - I personally did not downvote it.
      - nxzero 10y ago
        The network is the legal system which controls them.
CarolineW 10y ago
You are stating something that the parent comment explicitly says is not true. Quoting: > The vast majority of CCTV in the > UK is not networked, and owned by > small private companies ... So you say: > UK is being watched by a network > of 1.85m CCTV cameras. Your comment adds nothing to the discussion, and is contradicting the parent comment without evidence. Whether you are right or wrong, I suspect that's why you're being downvoted. If you flatly contradict someone without substantially adding to the discussion, that's what happens.
stordoff 10y ago
There are a huge number of CCTV cameras in the UK (potentially up to six million[0]), but it is somewhat misleading to call it a network of cameras. Many are owned by private businesses, not the Government. From [0]: > A key finding of our research is that the proportion of cameras controlled by local government is around 1 in 70. [...] Without the help of businesses investing into their privately-owned systems, the Police would only have access to the one publically-owned camera per 1,000 head of population [population of UK/1000 ~= 64000] [0] http://www.securitynewsdesk.com/bsia-attempts-to-clarify-question-of-how-many-cctv-cameras-in-the-uk/ http://www.securitynewsdesk.com/bsia-attempts-to-clarify-que...

UK is being watched by a network of 1.85m CCTV cameras. EDIT: Curious how stating a fact is worth downvotes. What am I missing?

by nxzero 10y ago

UK is being watched by a network of 1.85m CCTV cameras. EDIT: Curious how stating a fact is worth downvotes. What am I missing?

saintwind 10y ago

You can't state facts that go against the hivemind here, otherwise a downvote will occur.

CarolineW 10y ago
It's demonstrably not a fact, and it doesn't add to the discussion. Add constructively to the discussion and contrary opinions are not only tolerated, but engaged.
- EdHominem 10y ago
  The comment is factual. It's not relevant who owns the cameras. Look at any major incident in the UK recently and the police have CCTV footage from private businesses. Either voluntarily given or subpoenaed.
  - CarolineW 10y ago
    The comment was: > UK is being watched by a > network of 1.85m CCTV cameras. It's not a network - the comment was not factually correct. I was answering the question and explaining my understanding of a likely cause for the downvotes - I personally did not downvote it.
    - nxzero 10y ago
      The network is the legal system which controls them.

CarolineW 10y ago

You are stating something that the parent comment explicitly says is not true. Quoting: > The vast majority of CCTV in the > UK is not networked, and owned by > small private companies ... So you say: > UK is being watched by a network > of 1.85m CCTV cameras. Your comment adds nothing to the discussion, and is contradicting the parent comment without evidence. Whether you are right or wrong, I suspect that's why you're being downvoted. If you flatly contradict someone without substantially adding to the discussion, that's what happens.

stordoff 10y ago

There are a huge number of CCTV cameras in the UK (potentially up to six million[0]), but it is somewhat misleading to call it a network of cameras. Many are owned by private businesses, not the Government. From [0]: > A key finding of our research is that the proportion of cameras controlled by local government is around 1 in 70. [...] Without the help of businesses investing into their privately-owned systems, the Police would only have access to the one publically-owned camera per 1,000 head of population [population of UK/1000 ~= 64000] [0] http://www.securitynewsdesk.com/bsia-attempts-to-clarify-question-of-how-many-cctv-cameras-in-the-uk/ http://www.securitynewsdesk.com/bsia-attempts-to-clarify-que...