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> And my point was that I should be free to think in whatever I want. You are quite free to do that: go forth and freely implement your own tabs if the existin

by zeveb 10y ago

> And my point was that I should be free to think in whatever I want. You are quite free to do that: go forth and freely implement your own tabs if the existing tab packages don't do what you want! Heck, you might even get the emacs dev team to include your package in the default elisp packages. You don't have tasking authority for the emacs devs; it's puzzling that you seem to believe you ought to.

oblio 10y ago
> You don't have tasking authority for the emacs devs; it's puzzling that you seem to believe you ought to. You're probably right, I shouldn't have been ranting. On the other hand, I'm a bit tired of the holier-than-thou attitude of many Emacs (and many Vim users) on internet forums. In my case I voted with my feet already :)
- zeveb 10y ago
  > On the other hand, I'm a bit tired of the holier-than-thou attitude of many Emacs (and many Vim users) on internet forums. Well, think back to when you were a kid in school. Did the high-schoolers consider themselves better-educated than the first-graders? Almost certainly. Were they right? Indubitably. vi & emacs are, simply, superior to the alternatives (albeit imperfect in themselves). It's a recasting of the Blub Paradox: someone using a moderately-powerful editor can see how it's better than Notepad or nano, but cannot see how emacs or vi is better than his own editor. From his perspective, users of better editors are self-congratulatory and delusional — the problem is that his perspective is wrong: there is an objective ranking of editors, and his is worse than theirs. > In my case I voted with my feet already :) In the long run, that's like being truant. Sure, it saves one some miserable hours in school, but those miserable hours buy one an education. Life's too short to use Atom, Eclipse, SublimeText or TextMate.

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> And my point was that I should be free to think in whatever I want. You are quite free to do that: go forth and freely implement your own tabs if the existin

by zeveb 10y ago

oblio 10y ago
> You don't have tasking authority for the emacs devs; it's puzzling that you seem to believe you ought to. You're probably right, I shouldn't have been ranting. On the other hand, I'm a bit tired of the holier-than-thou attitude of many Emacs (and many Vim users) on internet forums. In my case I voted with my feet already :)
- zeveb 10y ago
  > On the other hand, I'm a bit tired of the holier-than-thou attitude of many Emacs (and many Vim users) on internet forums. Well, think back to when you were a kid in school. Did the high-schoolers consider themselves better-educated than the first-graders? Almost certainly. Were they right? Indubitably. vi & emacs are, simply, superior to the alternatives (albeit imperfect in themselves). It's a recasting of the Blub Paradox: someone using a moderately-powerful editor can see how it's better than Notepad or nano, but cannot see how emacs or vi is better than his own editor. From his perspective, users of better editors are self-congratulatory and delusional — the problem is that his perspective is wrong: there is an objective ranking of editors, and his is worse than theirs. > In my case I voted with my feet already :) In the long run, that's like being truant. Sure, it saves one some miserable hours in school, but those miserable hours buy one an education. Life's too short to use Atom, Eclipse, SublimeText or TextMate.