4 ms·

The SQL injection is more like entering using a `back door` instead asking for permission. Power used the facebook API which is the `main entrance`.

deleted 10y ago
[deleted]
dpark 10y ago
You realize trespassing is illegal regardless of which door you use, right?
- tptacek 10y ago
  This came up on a recent thread here, where someone was surprised to learn that the crime of entering someone's house through an unlocked window or door is called "breaking and entering".
  - dpark 10y ago
    Yeah, I was reluctant to mention breaking and entering here because it depends on the state. In California, it would be burglary because they don't actually have a "breaking and entering" law. If you somehow entered through the window with no intent to commit further crime, I think it would be trespass, but I'm not sure.
  - Spivak 10y ago
    I think the fact that it's surprising is an indication of a problem with the law. If people think that breaking and entering actually requires physically breaking something or disarming some security measure then that's probably what it should be. Is there really a harm in calling it trespassing?
    - dpark 10y ago
      Trespassing is a different crime. It's a bother to have a stranger enter your property uninvited. It's a huge invasion to have a stranger enter your house uninvited. The former may be trespassing. The latter is likely breaking and entering (or burglary or some similar law). You could try to change the names, but it honestly doesn't matter. Many people also don't know the difference between assault and battery. No one really thinks it's okay to threaten others with physical violence even if no blows are dealt, though. Similarly, no one really thinks it's acceptable to enter someone's home without permission even without literally "breaking in". The laws around these are generally reasonable even if the legal names aren't exactly what people expect.
    - dragonwriter 10y ago
      > If people think that breaking and entering actually requires physically breaking something or disarming some security measure then that's probably what it should be. "Breaking and entering" appears to have originated as a English legal doublet [0] -- a pair of words with origins in different languages with similar meaning adopted as the language of the law changed. As an aid to clarity. > Is there really a harm in calling it trespassing? Well, yes, because: (1) "Breaking and entering" already has another name, "burglary". [1] (2) "Trespassing" is the name of another, broader and, by itself less serious, crime of intrusion onto property without permission. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_doublet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_doublet [1] See, e.g., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_and_entering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_and_entering

deleted 10y ago

[deleted]

dpark 10y ago

You realize trespassing is illegal regardless of which door you use, right?

tptacek 10y ago
This came up on a recent thread here, where someone was surprised to learn that the crime of entering someone's house through an unlocked window or door is called "breaking and entering".
- dpark 10y ago
  Yeah, I was reluctant to mention breaking and entering here because it depends on the state. In California, it would be burglary because they don't actually have a "breaking and entering" law. If you somehow entered through the window with no intent to commit further crime, I think it would be trespass, but I'm not sure.
- Spivak 10y ago
  I think the fact that it's surprising is an indication of a problem with the law. If people think that breaking and entering actually requires physically breaking something or disarming some security measure then that's probably what it should be. Is there really a harm in calling it trespassing?
  - dpark 10y ago
    Trespassing is a different crime. It's a bother to have a stranger enter your property uninvited. It's a huge invasion to have a stranger enter your house uninvited. The former may be trespassing. The latter is likely breaking and entering (or burglary or some similar law). You could try to change the names, but it honestly doesn't matter. Many people also don't know the difference between assault and battery. No one really thinks it's okay to threaten others with physical violence even if no blows are dealt, though. Similarly, no one really thinks it's acceptable to enter someone's home without permission even without literally "breaking in". The laws around these are generally reasonable even if the legal names aren't exactly what people expect.
  - dragonwriter 10y ago
    > If people think that breaking and entering actually requires physically breaking something or disarming some security measure then that's probably what it should be. "Breaking and entering" appears to have originated as a English legal doublet [0] -- a pair of words with origins in different languages with similar meaning adopted as the language of the law changed. As an aid to clarity. > Is there really a harm in calling it trespassing? Well, yes, because: (1) "Breaking and entering" already has another name, "burglary". [1] (2) "Trespassing" is the name of another, broader and, by itself less serious, crime of intrusion onto property without permission. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_doublet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_doublet [1] See, e.g., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_and_entering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_and_entering