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Installing apps from web: wget http://example.com/app.zip unzip app.zip -d app_files mv app_files/App.app /Applications rm -rf app.zip app_file

Installing apps from web: wget http://example.com/app.zip unzip app.zip -d app_files mv app_files/App.app /Applications rm -rf app.zip app_files With Mac App Store, I have to leave the CLI and use the mouse like a filthy peasant. And I pirate paid apps. Way easier UX there, because I don't have to spend any money.

stephenr 10y ago
> With Mac App Store, I have to leave the CLI and use the mouse like a filthy peasant. I found https://github.com/argon/mas https://github.com/argon/mas in about 5 minutes. Also, that tool will show you app id's from a search. What's the wget command to identify the correct download link for a given domain, assuming you even know the domain name for the app you want. > And I pirate paid apps Right so at this point your opinions are essentially worth less than nothing.
- saiko-chriskun 10y ago
  and that high horse is why I didn't comment further initially lol. some people just don't like using apple's platforms. deal with it. just downloading a .dmg is way less overhead, by definition. I don't even like having to auth with appleid.
  - stephenr 10y ago
    > and that high horse is why I didn't comment further initially lol Since when is asking for actual reasons ("I don't like it because I don't like it" is not a valid opinion, in my eyes) a "high horse". > just downloading a .dmg is way less overhead, by definition. That's a very subjective opinion. Each time I do a fresh install of OSX, the MAS apps are always the quickest and easiest to re-install. The only valid (but not really defensible) argument I've seen yet, is the one about not paying for commercial apps. Every other claim that the manual method is easier, just doesn't hold up.
    - saiko-chriskun 10y ago
      > Since when is asking for actual reasons ("I don't like it because I don't like it" is not a valid opinion, in my eyes) a "high horse". Saying things like your opinion is worth less than nothing, being all sanctimonious about being able to "defend" the position, and acting like you're somehow the arbiter of what worth is, is what I was referring to by high horse. > That's a very subjective opinion. It's not at all subjective. MAS is an entire platform. A .dmg is just a .dmg. ..defensible? why is there even a need to "defend" a position? I, along with others, prefer to avoid the MAS when possible. period. fact. end of discussion. there's nothing more to say. I very rarely pirate software so that has nothing to do with it. it's just a personal preference. deal with it.
      - pikachu_is_cool 10y ago
        > it's just a personal preference. deal with it. It saddens me how some people fail to realize this. It's like they think that their opinion is objectively right, and everyone else is objectively wrong. How do you expect to make any friends with that attitude? :/
- pikachu_is_cool 10y ago
  > Right so at this point your opinions are essentially worth less than nothing. Just because I don't believe in intellectual property? I'm a programmer just like you... piracy also "hurts" me. As long as you support the authors in some way, then it's okay in my book. Also, that Github project may have swayed me.
  - stephenr 10y ago
    > Just because I don't believe in intellectual property? So release your own projects as open source or public domain or whatever you want. > As long as you support the authors in some way, then it's okay in my book. Given that you're using someone else's work, it doesn't matter what's "ok in your book", it matters what's ok in the developer's book.
    - pikachu_is_cool 10y ago
      > it matters what's ok in the developer's book. Why?
      - stephenr 10y ago
        Does it matter to you if I come into your house and shit in your fish tank?
        pikachu_is_cool 10y ago
        A better metaphor would be: "Does it matter to you if I made an exact copy of your fish tank, and then shat in it?", in which case, I wouldn't care.

stephenr 10y ago

> With Mac App Store, I have to leave the CLI and use the mouse like a filthy peasant. I found https://github.com/argon/mas https://github.com/argon/mas in about 5 minutes. Also, that tool will show you app id's from a search. What's the wget command to identify the correct download link for a given domain, assuming you even know the domain name for the app you want. > And I pirate paid apps Right so at this point your opinions are essentially worth less than nothing.

saiko-chriskun 10y ago
and that high horse is why I didn't comment further initially lol. some people just don't like using apple's platforms. deal with it. just downloading a .dmg is way less overhead, by definition. I don't even like having to auth with appleid.
- stephenr 10y ago
  > and that high horse is why I didn't comment further initially lol Since when is asking for actual reasons ("I don't like it because I don't like it" is not a valid opinion, in my eyes) a "high horse". > just downloading a .dmg is way less overhead, by definition. That's a very subjective opinion. Each time I do a fresh install of OSX, the MAS apps are always the quickest and easiest to re-install. The only valid (but not really defensible) argument I've seen yet, is the one about not paying for commercial apps. Every other claim that the manual method is easier, just doesn't hold up.
  - saiko-chriskun 10y ago
    > Since when is asking for actual reasons ("I don't like it because I don't like it" is not a valid opinion, in my eyes) a "high horse". Saying things like your opinion is worth less than nothing, being all sanctimonious about being able to "defend" the position, and acting like you're somehow the arbiter of what worth is, is what I was referring to by high horse. > That's a very subjective opinion. It's not at all subjective. MAS is an entire platform. A .dmg is just a .dmg. ..defensible? why is there even a need to "defend" a position? I, along with others, prefer to avoid the MAS when possible. period. fact. end of discussion. there's nothing more to say. I very rarely pirate software so that has nothing to do with it. it's just a personal preference. deal with it.
    - pikachu_is_cool 10y ago
      > it's just a personal preference. deal with it. It saddens me how some people fail to realize this. It's like they think that their opinion is objectively right, and everyone else is objectively wrong. How do you expect to make any friends with that attitude? :/
pikachu_is_cool 10y ago
> Right so at this point your opinions are essentially worth less than nothing. Just because I don't believe in intellectual property? I'm a programmer just like you... piracy also "hurts" me. As long as you support the authors in some way, then it's okay in my book. Also, that Github project may have swayed me.
- stephenr 10y ago
  > Just because I don't believe in intellectual property? So release your own projects as open source or public domain or whatever you want. > As long as you support the authors in some way, then it's okay in my book. Given that you're using someone else's work, it doesn't matter what's "ok in your book", it matters what's ok in the developer's book.
  - pikachu_is_cool 10y ago
    > it matters what's ok in the developer's book. Why?
    - stephenr 10y ago
      Does it matter to you if I come into your house and shit in your fish tank?
      - pikachu_is_cool 10y ago
        A better metaphor would be: "Does it matter to you if I made an exact copy of your fish tank, and then shat in it?", in which case, I wouldn't care.