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There's zero proof of this assertion in the article... But hey whatever deflects blame and attention from the corruption in the DNC.

adamnemecek 10y ago
I don't think that they are deflecting anything.
- Natsu 10y ago
  Coulda fooled me. It gives people something else to talk about, rather than discussing how the DNC made sure that Hillary won, no matter what the primary voters thought...
daxorid 10y ago
Many people in infosec (epitomized by the Swift On Security account) normally circumspect and cautious about attribution, are claiming with 100% certainty that Putin is behind the leaks. Politics have a tendency to really mess with a person's nominal judgement.
- Teever 10y ago
  Do you have any evidence of this? I don't understand why the Russians would be capable of obtaining this data yet not able to release it without revealing that they were the source. Unless it was their motivation to be linked to it -- but what does that gain them? It seems like the more likely story is that all of this talk about the Russians is just a method of misdirecting people to discuss the theoretical Russian link but not the documents themselves.
  - daxorid 10y ago
    You may have misunderstood me. I am saying that while attribution is a very tricky, difficult business fraught with guesswork and spectra of probabilities, in this one instance a ton of infosec people are throwing their typical caution about attribution out the window to claim full confidence in attribution to Putin on the basis of a shared IP address in France and a Romanian who says Guccifer2 doesn't write like a Romanian. It is a great demonstration of what politics does to the minds of nominally cautious, reasonable people.
    - Teever 10y ago
      Thanks for the clarification. That makes a lot more sense.
- riffic 10y ago
  Still have no proof other than a spurious claim "Many people in infosec..."
  - chillwaves 10y ago
    OP is likely just Correcting the Record.
PhantomGremlin 10y ago
There's zero proof of this assertion in the article Yeah, the only thing missing in that totally unsubstantiated article was Hillary saying directly that Putin and Russia are now part of a "vast right wing conspiracy" trying to keep her from returning to the White House.

adamnemecek 10y ago

I don't think that they are deflecting anything.

Natsu 10y ago
Coulda fooled me. It gives people something else to talk about, rather than discussing how the DNC made sure that Hillary won, no matter what the primary voters thought...

daxorid 10y ago

Many people in infosec (epitomized by the Swift On Security account) normally circumspect and cautious about attribution, are claiming with 100% certainty that Putin is behind the leaks. Politics have a tendency to really mess with a person's nominal judgement.

Teever 10y ago
Do you have any evidence of this? I don't understand why the Russians would be capable of obtaining this data yet not able to release it without revealing that they were the source. Unless it was their motivation to be linked to it -- but what does that gain them? It seems like the more likely story is that all of this talk about the Russians is just a method of misdirecting people to discuss the theoretical Russian link but not the documents themselves.
- daxorid 10y ago
  You may have misunderstood me. I am saying that while attribution is a very tricky, difficult business fraught with guesswork and spectra of probabilities, in this one instance a ton of infosec people are throwing their typical caution about attribution out the window to claim full confidence in attribution to Putin on the basis of a shared IP address in France and a Romanian who says Guccifer2 doesn't write like a Romanian. It is a great demonstration of what politics does to the minds of nominally cautious, reasonable people.
  - Teever 10y ago
    Thanks for the clarification. That makes a lot more sense.
riffic 10y ago
Still have no proof other than a spurious claim "Many people in infosec..."
- chillwaves 10y ago
  OP is likely just Correcting the Record.

PhantomGremlin 10y ago

There's zero proof of this assertion in the article Yeah, the only thing missing in that totally unsubstantiated article was Hillary saying directly that Putin and Russia are now part of a "vast right wing conspiracy" trying to keep her from returning to the White House.