The terms syntactic-soup and misfeature are yours. I would not describe the features listed that way, nor did my original post. Likewise, with "achievement" -

The terms syntactic-soup and misfeature are yours. I would not describe the features listed that way, nor did my original post. Likewise, with "achievement" -- I provided a survey of, in my view, useful features independent of context and best-practices. There is no particular reason for me to be proud, but I would think that Rich Hickey would deserve to be so since he's the one who has actually "achieved" something great by creating Clojure. You may not see it that way (clearly not), but it's probably best to keep the level of discussion on merits of this feature or that rather than false pretenses.