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DNC chairwoman will resign in aftermath of committee email controversy

53 points by molecule 10y ago

p4wnc6 10y ago
It is mind-boggling to me that the character of the DNC emails isn't basically under 24/7 emphatic media coverage and on the minds of all citizens. The only counter-argument I can imagine is basically what Bernie Sanders himself said -- that it's no surprise. lolwut ... who cares if it's a surprise. The administration of the Democratic party: (i) conspired to push favor in the direction of a predetermined candidate long before any public preferences were known, (ii) made some outrageous and extremely, extremely, as-extreme-as-anything-you-want-to-say-about-the-Republican-platform bigoted remarks about homosexuals, often as fucking jokes and (iii) kicks around the idea of finding an audience plant to question Sanders on whether he is an atheist to win votes. And what's the Democrat response? Russia's trying to do it. WTF!!!??? Don't believe expressly bigoted email data showing that popular opinion is ignored, mocked, and conceived as an opportunity for engineering. No. Discount that. Becuz Russia izzz 4 Trump. Jesus. There's nothing further to say. It's not an excuse to vote for the equally train-wreck Republican ticket, but it's an overt and unequivocal confirmation that the parties, in every pragmatic sense, are identical, and that for the overwhelming majority of Americans, apparently even marginalized Americans in certain minority groups, there is absolutely no fucking difference between the two parties, no justification for favoring one over the other, no impending immigration or terrorism or international relations crisis that's going to drop like the sword of Damocles on us if one is elected over the other. They. are. the. same. The. exact. same. There. is. 100%. zero. debate. about. it. any. more. So. just. fucking. stop. The content of the email leak was one of the most depressing things I've experienced in my lifetime. Followed quickly by the equally depressing rationalizations basically trying to say "that's just politics" and downplay it. Vox immediately posts an article saying "they found no smoking guns" blah blah blah more of the same shit. It's just unbelievable the degree to which we are engineered. Sorry. Had to vent.
- nl 10y ago
  I'm one of those who thinks there isn't much interesting about them. I'd note that most mainstream media outlets have covered them, but I guess you mean that it doesn't appear to be the main story or something? What specifically do you find so outrageous? I've had a bit of a look through them, and I don't see anything that seems out of place in any big company or organisation. Talking about advertising as propaganda, thinking of the public as a set of numbers and being disrespectful in discussing them, trying to help people they liked out over people they didn't. Isn't all of this just normal organisational stuff? I think that Vox's assessment was pretty much correct. (For context: Not a Hillary supporter, and think it is entirely appropriate that the DNC Chair resigns).
  - SixSigma 10y ago
    Nothing interesting ? BASED COPYPASTA DNC member killing horses for insurance money. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/578 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/578 DNC making fun of black womans name. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/17942 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/17942 DNC telling each other, "I love you too. no homo." https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/425 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/425 DNC requesting a pull an MSNBC commentary segment. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6107 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6107 DNC controlling the narrative with time released stories. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12450 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12450 DNC conspiring to create false Trump information and release with Reuters. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7102 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7102 DNC Hillary supporters infiltrated Sanders campaign. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4776 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4776 DNC members going to complain to Morning Joe producers about his mentioning of a "rigged system." https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8806 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8806 DNC discussing their relationship with NBC/MSNBC/CNN and how to get better treatment. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13762 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13762 Super PAC paying young voters to push back online Sanders supporters. Paid shills. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8351 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8351 DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz having an off the record meeting in MSNBC President Phil Griffin's office. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8867 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8867 DNC being messed with by the Washington Examiner. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5304 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5304 DNC discussing Hillary's policies as unfeasible. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/519 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/519 $200k for a private dinner with Hillary. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/17287 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/17287 Offering to send interns out to fake a protest against the RNC. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13366 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13366 Faking outrage and pasting in a video later. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7102 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7102 A mole working inside of the Sanders campaign. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7793 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7793 Bringing up Sanders religion to scare the southern voters. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11508 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11508 Possible money laundering by moving money back and forth to bypass legal limits. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6230 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6230 Politico writer sending his stories to the DNC before he sends them to his editor. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10808 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10808 DNC feeding CNN the questions they want to be asked in interviews. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4077 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4077 Creating a fake job ad for a Trump business to paint him as a sexist. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12803 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12803 Hillary funding 2 million dollars in a cooridanted campaign in battleground states to win back the Senate. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7784 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7784 DNC is upset that their "allies" didn't send in protestors so they sent out interns. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13366 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13366 "Clinton Foundation quid-pro-quo worries are lingering, will be exploited in general." https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8351 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8351 $50,000 - Lawrence Benenson. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/14700 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/14700 Daily Fundraising Report for the DNC. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/2875 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/2875 Content & Social Strategy Discussion. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7512 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7512 Re: BuzzFeed and DNC connection. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10933 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10933 Draft linking news articles about trump to use as negative press. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7586 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7586 Fwd: State Dinner Countdown. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/1901 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/1901 Some chick is angry she hasn't been given more stuff from the Obama administration...might be interesting to follow up. Re: State Dinner Countdown. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/2946 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/2946 Tim O'Brien: Trump's Fixation on Inflating his Net Worth is a Cause for Concern. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4496 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4496 RE: May Fundraising Numbers. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5615 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5615 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7720 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7720 Hillary for America Raised $26.4 Million in April, Began May with More than $30 Million Cash on Hand. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13986 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13986 Re: For approval: Trump supporter graphics. https://www.wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/788 https://www.wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/788 Press talking points, states Hillary is their candidate, dated May 5, 2016. More of a smoking gun than the ambiguous talk in the emails themselves. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/fileid/5254/2728 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/fileid/5254/2728 Consultant calling megyn kelly a bimbo. Has PDF attached that says the same. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6087 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6087 DNC trying to get away with violating the Hatch Act. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/20148 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/20148 Democrats using interns to organize fake "protests." https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13830 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13830 RE: Action on DNC tomorrow (Immigration Raids). https://www.wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/9736 https://www.wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/9736 Credit to u/luciferIAm from r/s4p for creating this copypasta. SPREAD THIS
nxc18 10y ago
Whether or not you have a problem with her sentiment or attitude, you can't deny that putting those words in an email caused a lot of damage to Hillary's campaign and the party. One would think in the age of wikileaks and Snowden that politicians would have learned by now not to write anything they wouldn't want printed in the NY Times or the Washington Post.
- Kequc 10y ago
  Or for that matter nobody would type anything they don't want to end up in a government database somewhere.
- rplst8 10y ago
  Yes, because hiding the corruption is a better choice. I'd argue that ALL government official communications must be recorded and made public.
  - Agustus 10y ago
    We tried to do that, but they set up their own servers, create Gmail accounts to be off FOIA, or switch over to off the record instant messenger.
peterkelly 10y ago
If only they'd been using encryption...
blhack 10y ago
She is resigning so that she can be Hillary Clinton's fulltime "honorary chair of her campaigns 50 state program". No, I am not making this up: https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/statements/2016/07/24/hillary-clinton-statement-on-the-resignation-of-democratic-national-committee-chair-debbie-wasserman-schultz/ https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/statements/2016/07/2...
kabouseng 10y ago
Wow, just finished watching House of Cards S4 and can't help thinking it is somehow based on the Clintons... :D
adamnemecek 10y ago
Is the leaker in legal danger?
xbmcuser 10y ago
The democrats I feel have elected the 1 person that could loose to Trump and the Hillary campaign keep making things worse. At this point I feel any vanilla Democrat will do better than Hillary in the elections

53 points by molecule 10y ago

It is mind-boggling to me that the character of the DNC emails isn't basically under 24/7 emphatic media coverage and on the minds of all citizens. The only counter-argument I can imagine is basically what Bernie Sanders himself said -- that it's no surprise. lolwut ... who cares if it's a surprise. The administration of the Democratic party: (i) conspired to push favor in the direction of a predetermined candidate long before any public preferences were known, (ii) made some outrageous and extremely, extremely, as-extreme-as-anything-you-want-to-say-about-the-Republican-platform bigoted remarks about homosexuals, often as fucking jokes and (iii) kicks around the idea of finding an audience plant to question Sanders on whether he is an atheist to win votes. And what's the Democrat response? Russia's trying to do it. WTF!!!??? Don't believe expressly bigoted email data showing that popular opinion is ignored, mocked, and conceived as an opportunity for engineering. No. Discount that. Becuz Russia izzz 4 Trump. Jesus. There's nothing further to say. It's not an excuse to vote for the equally train-wreck Republican ticket, but it's an overt and unequivocal confirmation that the parties, in every pragmatic sense, are identical, and that for the overwhelming majority of Americans, apparently even marginalized Americans in certain minority groups, there is absolutely no fucking difference between the two parties, no justification for favoring one over the other, no impending immigration or terrorism or international relations crisis that's going to drop like the sword of Damocles on us if one is elected over the other. They. are. the. same. The. exact. same. There. is. 100%. zero. debate. about. it. any. more. So. just. fucking. stop. The content of the email leak was one of the most depressing things I've experienced in my lifetime. Followed quickly by the equally depressing rationalizations basically trying to say "that's just politics" and downplay it. Vox immediately posts an article saying "they found no smoking guns" blah blah blah more of the same shit. It's just unbelievable the degree to which we are engineered. Sorry. Had to vent.

nl 10y ago
I'm one of those who thinks there isn't much interesting about them. I'd note that most mainstream media outlets have covered them, but I guess you mean that it doesn't appear to be the main story or something? What specifically do you find so outrageous? I've had a bit of a look through them, and I don't see anything that seems out of place in any big company or organisation. Talking about advertising as propaganda, thinking of the public as a set of numbers and being disrespectful in discussing them, trying to help people they liked out over people they didn't. Isn't all of this just normal organisational stuff? I think that Vox's assessment was pretty much correct. (For context: Not a Hillary supporter, and think it is entirely appropriate that the DNC Chair resigns).
- SixSigma 10y ago
  Nothing interesting ? BASED COPYPASTA DNC member killing horses for insurance money. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/578 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/578 DNC making fun of black womans name. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/17942 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/17942 DNC telling each other, "I love you too. no homo." https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/425 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/425 DNC requesting a pull an MSNBC commentary segment. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6107 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6107 DNC controlling the narrative with time released stories. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12450 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12450 DNC conspiring to create false Trump information and release with Reuters. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7102 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7102 DNC Hillary supporters infiltrated Sanders campaign. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4776 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4776 DNC members going to complain to Morning Joe producers about his mentioning of a "rigged system." https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8806 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8806 DNC discussing their relationship with NBC/MSNBC/CNN and how to get better treatment. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13762 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13762 Super PAC paying young voters to push back online Sanders supporters. Paid shills. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8351 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8351 DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz having an off the record meeting in MSNBC President Phil Griffin's office. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8867 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8867 DNC being messed with by the Washington Examiner. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5304 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5304 DNC discussing Hillary's policies as unfeasible. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/519 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/519 $200k for a private dinner with Hillary. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/17287 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/17287 Offering to send interns out to fake a protest against the RNC. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13366 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13366 Faking outrage and pasting in a video later. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7102 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7102 A mole working inside of the Sanders campaign. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7793 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7793 Bringing up Sanders religion to scare the southern voters. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11508 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11508 Possible money laundering by moving money back and forth to bypass legal limits. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6230 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6230 Politico writer sending his stories to the DNC before he sends them to his editor. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10808 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10808 DNC feeding CNN the questions they want to be asked in interviews. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4077 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4077 Creating a fake job ad for a Trump business to paint him as a sexist. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12803 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12803 Hillary funding 2 million dollars in a cooridanted campaign in battleground states to win back the Senate. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7784 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7784 DNC is upset that their "allies" didn't send in protestors so they sent out interns. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13366 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13366 "Clinton Foundation quid-pro-quo worries are lingering, will be exploited in general." https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8351 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8351 $50,000 - Lawrence Benenson. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/14700 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/14700 Daily Fundraising Report for the DNC. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/2875 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/2875 Content & Social Strategy Discussion. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7512 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7512 Re: BuzzFeed and DNC connection. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10933 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10933 Draft linking news articles about trump to use as negative press. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7586 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7586 Fwd: State Dinner Countdown. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/1901 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/1901 Some chick is angry she hasn't been given more stuff from the Obama administration...might be interesting to follow up. Re: State Dinner Countdown. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/2946 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/2946 Tim O'Brien: Trump's Fixation on Inflating his Net Worth is a Cause for Concern. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4496 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4496 RE: May Fundraising Numbers. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5615 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/5615 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7720 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7720 Hillary for America Raised $26.4 Million in April, Began May with More than $30 Million Cash on Hand. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13986 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13986 Re: For approval: Trump supporter graphics. https://www.wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/788 https://www.wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/788 Press talking points, states Hillary is their candidate, dated May 5, 2016. More of a smoking gun than the ambiguous talk in the emails themselves. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/fileid/5254/2728 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/fileid/5254/2728 Consultant calling megyn kelly a bimbo. Has PDF attached that says the same. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6087 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6087 DNC trying to get away with violating the Hatch Act. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/20148 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/20148 Democrats using interns to organize fake "protests." https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13830 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13830 RE: Action on DNC tomorrow (Immigration Raids). https://www.wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/9736 https://www.wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/9736 Credit to u/luciferIAm from r/s4p for creating this copypasta. SPREAD THIS

nxc18 10y ago

Whether or not you have a problem with her sentiment or attitude, you can't deny that putting those words in an email caused a lot of damage to Hillary's campaign and the party. One would think in the age of wikileaks and Snowden that politicians would have learned by now not to write anything they wouldn't want printed in the NY Times or the Washington Post.

Kequc 10y ago
Or for that matter nobody would type anything they don't want to end up in a government database somewhere.
rplst8 10y ago
Yes, because hiding the corruption is a better choice. I'd argue that ALL government official communications must be recorded and made public.
- Agustus 10y ago
  We tried to do that, but they set up their own servers, create Gmail accounts to be off FOIA, or switch over to off the record instant messenger.

peterkelly 10y ago

If only they'd been using encryption...

blhack 10y ago

She is resigning so that she can be Hillary Clinton's fulltime "honorary chair of her campaigns 50 state program". No, I am not making this up: https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/statements/2016/07/24/hillary-clinton-statement-on-the-resignation-of-democratic-national-committee-chair-debbie-wasserman-schultz/ https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/statements/2016/07/2...

kabouseng 10y ago

Wow, just finished watching House of Cards S4 and can't help thinking it is somehow based on the Clintons... :D

adamnemecek 10y ago

Is the leaker in legal danger?

xbmcuser 10y ago

The democrats I feel have elected the 1 person that could loose to Trump and the Hillary campaign keep making things worse. At this point I feel any vanilla Democrat will do better than Hillary in the elections