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You can't conflate the 'windows/mac' side of things for non-standardized keyboard layouts - that's ridiculous. Macs have very standardized layouts, to the exten

You can't conflate the 'windows/mac' side of things for non-standardized keyboard layouts - that's ridiculous. Macs have very standardized layouts, to the extent that the Apple external keyboards are modeled on the laptop ones.

aexaey 10y ago
Why can't I? For the purpose of this argument, Windows and Mac keyboards aren't all that different. See for yourself - modern mac keyboards have two layouts: - Full / 105-key layout, which is a copy of Windows 105-key layout with renamed and re-shuffled lower row, featuring: control, option(alt), command(win), space, command, option, control; [1] - Compact (laptop / magic), where lower row has: fn, control, option(alt), command(win), space, command option; [2] Other (Windows) layouts of the bottom row: - Full/Desktop 105-key: Ctrl, Win, Alt, Space, Alt, Win, Menu, Ctrl; - Lenovo laptop: Fn, Ctrl, Win, Alt, Space, Alt, Win[4]. Ctlr; [3] - Dell laptop: Ctrl, Fn, Win, Alt, Space, Alt, Ctrl. [5] ...etc. Now, this is ridiculous. So my point is: sure, there are (ad-hoc) standards, but way too many of them, and all of them try to pack too many keys around core QWERTY field, especially lower row. Chromebook is the first one on record to prune this and offer a clean, usable layout. [1] http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MB110LL/B/apple-keyboard-with-numeric-keypad-english-usa http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MB110LL/B/apple-keyboard-w... [2] http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MLA22LL/A/magic-keyboard-us-english http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MLA22LL/A/magic-keyboard-u... [3] http://www.lenovo.com/images/gallery/main/lenovo-convertible-tablet-thinkPad-helix-keyboard-view-9.jpg http://www.lenovo.com/images/gallery/main/lenovo-convertible... [4] On some models, PrintScreen takes place of second Win key [5] http://kbimg.dell.com/library/KB/DELL_ORGANIZATIONAL_GROUPS/DELL_GLOBAL/Content%20Team/5450_5250_kybd.JPG http://kbimg.dell.com/library/KB/DELL_ORGANIZATIONAL_GROUPS/...

aexaey 10y ago

Why can't I? For the purpose of this argument, Windows and Mac keyboards aren't all that different. See for yourself - modern mac keyboards have two layouts: - Full / 105-key layout, which is a copy of Windows 105-key layout with renamed and re-shuffled lower row, featuring: control, option(alt), command(win), space, command, option, control; [1] - Compact (laptop / magic), where lower row has: fn, control, option(alt), command(win), space, command option; [2] Other (Windows) layouts of the bottom row: - Full/Desktop 105-key: Ctrl, Win, Alt, Space, Alt, Win, Menu, Ctrl; - Lenovo laptop: Fn, Ctrl, Win, Alt, Space, Alt, Win[4]. Ctlr; [3] - Dell laptop: Ctrl, Fn, Win, Alt, Space, Alt, Ctrl. [5] ...etc. Now, this is ridiculous. So my point is: sure, there are (ad-hoc) standards, but way too many of them, and all of them try to pack too many keys around core QWERTY field, especially lower row. Chromebook is the first one on record to prune this and offer a clean, usable layout. [1] http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MB110LL/B/apple-keyboard-with-numeric-keypad-english-usa http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MB110LL/B/apple-keyboard-w... [2] http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MLA22LL/A/magic-keyboard-us-english http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MLA22LL/A/magic-keyboard-u... [3] http://www.lenovo.com/images/gallery/main/lenovo-convertible-tablet-thinkPad-helix-keyboard-view-9.jpg http://www.lenovo.com/images/gallery/main/lenovo-convertible... [4] On some models, PrintScreen takes place of second Win key [5] http://kbimg.dell.com/library/KB/DELL_ORGANIZATIONAL_GROUPS/DELL_GLOBAL/Content%20Team/5450_5250_kybd.JPG http://kbimg.dell.com/library/KB/DELL_ORGANIZATIONAL_GROUPS/...