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This is an non-exhaustive list of technologies that the article mentions: "Terraform, Schemaless, Riak, Cassandra, Hadoop, Redis, Twemproxy, Celery, Kafka, Ela

This is an non-exhaustive list of technologies that the article mentions: "Terraform, Schemaless, Riak, Cassandra, Hadoop, Redis, Twemproxy, Celery, Kafka, Elasticsearch, Logstash, Kibana, Docker, Mesos, Aurora, HAProxy, Hyperbahn, Ringpop, TChannel, Nginx, Thrift, Protobuf, Phabricator, OpenGrok, Packer, Vagrant, Boto, Unison, Jenkins, Clusto, Puppet, Grafana, Storm, Spark, React, SVG, Canvas 2D, Gufaru, DropWizard" How are you going to discuss all that in a substantive manner? All anyone can do in the limited time frame of a HN discussion is draw parallels to previous job experiences or previous user experiences. My own experiences are more aligned with the sentiment expressed in the "dismissal" comment.

dang 10y ago
Mine too, but that doesn't make it a good comment. In fact its first paragraph is almost a parody of the know-it-all internet comment. There are a zillion ways to make the same kind of argument thoughtfully. Talking about one's own concrete experiences helps. So does not acting like you know everything about somebody else's situation. Bloat is a problem, and so (in my view) is the kitchen-sink software culture of hauling in libraries and frameworks without thought for overall complexity. But we need to be able to talk about this at a higher level than other-people-are-idiots-compared-to-me. A much higher level.
- dkarapetyan 10y ago
  Point taken. I'll try to do better next time but it does get old after a while of seeing the same set of mistakes and articles parroted over and over again. Trivial problems blown out of proportions because people don't know the proper science, theory, and history and have opted to re-invent things badly. Uber is especially known for this since they re-invented/re-wrote basic geospatial algorithms in Go and hailed it as innovation. The dismissal comes from years of reading such articles and then chipping away at the veneer to see what's really underneath and being disappointed every time and then working on such things and experiencing first hand how the bloat comes about.
  - dang 10y ago
    I understand, but we need you to give us the experience and omit the dismissal. The former can dramatically improve the quality of this site; the latter only degrades it. And the former will actually be persuasive while the latter merely gets people's backs up (or makes them cheer if they happen to hate the same thing) without teaching the reader. I get irritated at having to repeat the same things over and over, too, but the internet is basically stateless and so (sadly) is the software business. And like everyone, I get peevish when people say/do wrong things and act like they know what they don't. The longer one has been around, the more occasions one has to secrete bile. But it's a humor one must metabolize internally and not release into the community—hard work and not fun at first, but far more rewarding in its effects, and maybe our only chance at creating an actually functional culture.
    - dkarapetyan 10y ago
      Agreed.

dang 10y ago

Mine too, but that doesn't make it a good comment. In fact its first paragraph is almost a parody of the know-it-all internet comment. There are a zillion ways to make the same kind of argument thoughtfully. Talking about one's own concrete experiences helps. So does not acting like you know everything about somebody else's situation. Bloat is a problem, and so (in my view) is the kitchen-sink software culture of hauling in libraries and frameworks without thought for overall complexity. But we need to be able to talk about this at a higher level than other-people-are-idiots-compared-to-me. A much higher level.

dkarapetyan 10y ago
Point taken. I'll try to do better next time but it does get old after a while of seeing the same set of mistakes and articles parroted over and over again. Trivial problems blown out of proportions because people don't know the proper science, theory, and history and have opted to re-invent things badly. Uber is especially known for this since they re-invented/re-wrote basic geospatial algorithms in Go and hailed it as innovation. The dismissal comes from years of reading such articles and then chipping away at the veneer to see what's really underneath and being disappointed every time and then working on such things and experiencing first hand how the bloat comes about.
- dang 10y ago
  I understand, but we need you to give us the experience and omit the dismissal. The former can dramatically improve the quality of this site; the latter only degrades it. And the former will actually be persuasive while the latter merely gets people's backs up (or makes them cheer if they happen to hate the same thing) without teaching the reader. I get irritated at having to repeat the same things over and over, too, but the internet is basically stateless and so (sadly) is the software business. And like everyone, I get peevish when people say/do wrong things and act like they know what they don't. The longer one has been around, the more occasions one has to secrete bile. But it's a humor one must metabolize internally and not release into the community—hard work and not fun at first, but far more rewarding in its effects, and maybe our only chance at creating an actually functional culture.
  - dkarapetyan 10y ago
    Agreed.