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Personally I will not buy a phone that does not support CynagonMod (or visa-versa). Not sure on the long-term impact of this. Yes and I would gladly pay to get

Personally I will not buy a phone that does not support CynagonMod (or visa-versa). Not sure on the long-term impact of this. Yes and I would gladly pay to get Cyanogen on my phone (with root, but they don't so I had to replace it with CynagonMod).

venomsnake 10y ago
I personally want unlockable bootloader and AOSP. Cyanogen is the closest we have to AOSP that is mainstream.
cocotino 10y ago
As someone who's dealt with this for years and years, let me tell you CyanogenMod is crap. 1) They don't actually support any devices. All devices, except the ones they sell (like that Chinese one they struggled for over one year to release, the OnePlus) are community supported. 2) Their own stuff (everything they put on top of AOSP) is of a very very bad quality, code-wise and UX-wise. 3) They are highly irresponsible. They have a Jira bug tracker with triagers that don't know anything about coding or Android at all. They have a Gerrit code review system where they antagonise all external contributors, nitpicking on everything, while Cyanogen, Inc. employees push everything they want into the tree without any code review, breaking stuff in the process (something that happens very often).
- Qantourisc 10y ago
  Ouch, well I'm new to android, feel free to recommend any other android OS that doesn't depend on the manufacturer to update them. (A lot don't do this).
Kiro 10y ago
How so? My Cyanogen phone is the worst I've ever had and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
- Qantourisc 10y ago
  Which part is terrible, important to know to have a discussion about it.
supercoder 10y ago
I don't ever want another phone with CynagonMod again. It's awful.
tmzt 10y ago
Root is interesting. I want it to be able to more easily develop on the device, mount loop filesystems, etc. But I think it would be acceptable to have a container or chroot with a restricted root user and possibly shared storage accessible through a bind mount. Maybe installing images could be supported through a self-signed key and fastboot. Is there anything device-wide root is needed for on modern Android?
ionised 10y ago
Same. Had CyanogenMod on all my phones prior to the Samsung S6 which didn't suppor it, a purchase which I greatly regret.

venomsnake 10y ago

I personally want unlockable bootloader and AOSP. Cyanogen is the closest we have to AOSP that is mainstream.

cocotino 10y ago

As someone who's dealt with this for years and years, let me tell you CyanogenMod is crap. 1) They don't actually support any devices. All devices, except the ones they sell (like that Chinese one they struggled for over one year to release, the OnePlus) are community supported. 2) Their own stuff (everything they put on top of AOSP) is of a very very bad quality, code-wise and UX-wise. 3) They are highly irresponsible. They have a Jira bug tracker with triagers that don't know anything about coding or Android at all. They have a Gerrit code review system where they antagonise all external contributors, nitpicking on everything, while Cyanogen, Inc. employees push everything they want into the tree without any code review, breaking stuff in the process (something that happens very often).

Qantourisc 10y ago
Ouch, well I'm new to android, feel free to recommend any other android OS that doesn't depend on the manufacturer to update them. (A lot don't do this).

Kiro 10y ago

How so? My Cyanogen phone is the worst I've ever had and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

Qantourisc 10y ago
Which part is terrible, important to know to have a discussion about it.

supercoder 10y ago

I don't ever want another phone with CynagonMod again. It's awful.

tmzt 10y ago

Root is interesting. I want it to be able to more easily develop on the device, mount loop filesystems, etc. But I think it would be acceptable to have a container or chroot with a restricted root user and possibly shared storage accessible through a bind mount. Maybe installing images could be supported through a self-signed key and fastboot. Is there anything device-wide root is needed for on modern Android?

ionised 10y ago

Same. Had CyanogenMod on all my phones prior to the Samsung S6 which didn't suppor it, a purchase which I greatly regret.