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I really like this theory: http://lesswrong.com/lw/fok/causal_universes/ http://lesswrong.com/lw/fok/causal_universes/ But regardless, what would it even mean
by Houshalter 10y ago
I really like this theory: http://lesswrong.com/lw/fok/causal_universes/ http://lesswrong.com/lw/fok/causal_universes/
But regardless, what would it even mean for there to not be an arrow of time? Such a universe would have egg shells on the floor, and then waves of energy that just happen to hit the eggshells, at just the right velocity to propel each piece to assemble an unbroken egg. What a remarkable coincidence that would be. It would be very difficult, perhaps impossible, to make a universe like that.
IMO it's just like cellular automata. You start with a "start state" of something simple or random. Perhaps just a single cell. And then it evolves into complex patterns as each time step causes the next time step.
There are reversible cellular automata, that in theory don't have an arrow of time either. You could start at any state, and reverse it, just as easily as advance it. But unless you are remarkably clever, or lucky, at arranging the start state, it will tend to increase in entropy over time. Or rather, as the step counter increases.
- gizmo686 10y ago>what would it even mean for there to not be an arrow of time? Thermaldynamic soup? Our universe has an entropy based arrow of time because it started in a low entropy state. If a hypothetical universe started in a high entropy state, than forward time would appear no more probable than backward time. Of course, such a universe would also not have eggshells; it would just be a thermodynamical soup.
- Houshalter 10y agoWell humans wouldn't exist in such a universe, and couldn't observe it. But even if you started with a completely random cellular automata, it's often common for order and structure to emerge. You could even say that entropy is going in reverse. But causation and the arrow of time still only flows one direction. Perhaps given enough time, life could evolve in such a universe, and ask why time only goes one direction.