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Yeah, it sounds annoying for the neighbors. How is this newsworthy outside of a local LA neighborhood newsletter?

aaron-lebo 10y ago
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- seizethecheese 10y ago
  Soylent the technology company is relevant to us. This story is not relevant to those who live outside the neighborhood in question.
  - aaron-lebo 10y ago
    > On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity. Aside from HN's guidelines... What do you propose? That we should just buy the latest and greatest tech, ignoring where that money goes how it impacts the world around us? That's how you get might makes right. That's how you get corruption and entitlement from those in charge (who are always the ones with money). This isn't about ideology. This is about sustainability, it's about history. This stuff has all happened before. There are tomes written about Gilded Age CEOs who couldn't be bothered to give a damn about anyone around them because they were the gods of industry. People get hurt from that.
    - icebraining 10y ago
      Gilded Age CEOs who couldn't be bothered to give a damn about anyone around them Couldn't they? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_D._Rockefeller#Philanthropy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_D._Rockefeller#Philanthro... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Mellon#Philanthropy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Mellon#Philanthropy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Carnegie#1901.E2.80.931919:_Philanthropist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Carnegie#1901.E2.80.931... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leland_Stanford#Stanford_University https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leland_Stanford#Stanford_Unive...
      - aaron-lebo 10y ago
        Philanthropy doesn't just erase the past. You can find a bunch of examples of good behavior, that doesn't mean destructive behavior wasn't occurring. That's the problem, none of these people are classically "evil". They're smart people who have good ideas but they also have failings like all of us. Related to Carnegie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnstown_Flood https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnstown_Flood > Henry Clay Frick led a group of speculators, including Benjamin Ruff, from Pittsburgh to purchase the abandoned reservoir, modify it, and convert it into a private resort lake for their wealthy associates. Many were connected through business and social links to Carnegie Steel. Development included lowering the dam to make its top wide enough to hold a road, and putting a fish screen in the spillway (the screen also trapped debris). These alterations are thought to have increased the vulnerability of the dam. Moreover, a system of relief pipes and valves, a feature of the original dam, previously sold off for scrap, was not replaced, so the club had no way of lowering the water level in the lake in case of an emergency. The members built cottages and a clubhouse to create the South Fork Fishing and Hunting Club, an exclusive and private mountain retreat. Membership grew to include more than 50 wealthy Pittsburgh steel, coal, and railroad industrialists.[8]
        icebraining 10y ago
        They're smart people who have good ideas but they also have failings like all of us. You were the one that claimed they couldn't be bothered to give a damn about anyone. That flood, while a tragedy and something that should probably have been prosecuted for criminal negligence, doesn't really prove your point. It's not like they benefited from its destruction.
  - SturgeonsLaw 10y ago
    Because although we don't like to admit it, sometimes on HN Silicon Valley is our Hollywood and CEOs are our celebs. It appears we're not above the occasional dollop of juicy goss.
    - seizethecheese 10y ago
      Exactly, thank you for articulating this so well.
    - gravypod 10y ago
      I hate to admit it but your're right. Put it in words better then I could.

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seizethecheese 10y ago
Soylent the technology company is relevant to us. This story is not relevant to those who live outside the neighborhood in question.
- aaron-lebo 10y ago
  > On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity. Aside from HN's guidelines... What do you propose? That we should just buy the latest and greatest tech, ignoring where that money goes how it impacts the world around us? That's how you get might makes right. That's how you get corruption and entitlement from those in charge (who are always the ones with money). This isn't about ideology. This is about sustainability, it's about history. This stuff has all happened before. There are tomes written about Gilded Age CEOs who couldn't be bothered to give a damn about anyone around them because they were the gods of industry. People get hurt from that.
  - icebraining 10y ago
    Gilded Age CEOs who couldn't be bothered to give a damn about anyone around them Couldn't they? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_D._Rockefeller#Philanthropy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_D._Rockefeller#Philanthro... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Mellon#Philanthropy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Mellon#Philanthropy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Carnegie#1901.E2.80.931919:_Philanthropist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Carnegie#1901.E2.80.931... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leland_Stanford#Stanford_University https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leland_Stanford#Stanford_Unive...
    - aaron-lebo 10y ago
      Philanthropy doesn't just erase the past. You can find a bunch of examples of good behavior, that doesn't mean destructive behavior wasn't occurring. That's the problem, none of these people are classically "evil". They're smart people who have good ideas but they also have failings like all of us. Related to Carnegie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnstown_Flood https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnstown_Flood > Henry Clay Frick led a group of speculators, including Benjamin Ruff, from Pittsburgh to purchase the abandoned reservoir, modify it, and convert it into a private resort lake for their wealthy associates. Many were connected through business and social links to Carnegie Steel. Development included lowering the dam to make its top wide enough to hold a road, and putting a fish screen in the spillway (the screen also trapped debris). These alterations are thought to have increased the vulnerability of the dam. Moreover, a system of relief pipes and valves, a feature of the original dam, previously sold off for scrap, was not replaced, so the club had no way of lowering the water level in the lake in case of an emergency. The members built cottages and a clubhouse to create the South Fork Fishing and Hunting Club, an exclusive and private mountain retreat. Membership grew to include more than 50 wealthy Pittsburgh steel, coal, and railroad industrialists.[8]
      - icebraining 10y ago
        They're smart people who have good ideas but they also have failings like all of us. You were the one that claimed they couldn't be bothered to give a damn about anyone. That flood, while a tragedy and something that should probably have been prosecuted for criminal negligence, doesn't really prove your point. It's not like they benefited from its destruction.
- SturgeonsLaw 10y ago
  Because although we don't like to admit it, sometimes on HN Silicon Valley is our Hollywood and CEOs are our celebs. It appears we're not above the occasional dollop of juicy goss.
  - seizethecheese 10y ago
    Exactly, thank you for articulating this so well.
  - gravypod 10y ago
    I hate to admit it but your're right. Put it in words better then I could.