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Yeah, definitely gambling to start. He could simply play through (or watch others play) a full blackjack shoe. Since he now knows the starting order of the ca

Yeah, definitely gambling to start. He could simply play through (or watch others play) a full blackjack shoe. Since he now knows the starting order of the cards, with his supercomputer mind he could easily analyze the shuffle, know the exact order of the cards after it, and bet accordingly - knowing in advance what hands both he and the dealer will have. In a place like Vegas he could easily win $1 million in one night, starting with a nominal amount ($100 for example). Then he could move onto the financial markets.

tomschlick 10y ago
You wouldn't get to see the shuffle though, as most casinos will use an auto shuffler that shuffles one shoe while the other is in play. 6-8 decks would be hard to figure out until maybe halfway through. Could do some analysis on the probability of a face card though that would really pay off towards the end of the shoe.
- ec109685 10y ago
  There are a lot of games that don't use auto shuffler still.
- downandout 10y ago
  Many casinos don't use auto-shufflers on all games, especially on higher limit games, because gamblers generally don't trust them. This applies to all casinos on the Strip that I'm aware of. Re: it being hard to figure out on 6-8 decks, the scenario presented was that his mind is a supercomputer with perfect memory and he has perfect vision. So he could very easily determine the exact order of an unlimited number of cards by watching the shuffle and knowing the starting order of the cards (that being said, you can walk into any high end casino on the strip and play up to 6 blackjack spots at $10,000 each on a hand-shuffled, double deck game - MGM, Aria, Bellagio, Mandalay Bay, Caesars Palace, The Mirage, etc). You're thinking in terms of human constraints; that's not what this hypothetical was about.
  - tomschlick 10y ago
    Fair enough, I wasn't considering the high limit rooms use a manual shuffle. Still it would be pretty suspicious to walk in, go straight to a high limit table, watch a full shoe, wait until a shuffle happens, then buy in and shoot for the max and win more than the odds say you should.

tomschlick 10y ago

You wouldn't get to see the shuffle though, as most casinos will use an auto shuffler that shuffles one shoe while the other is in play. 6-8 decks would be hard to figure out until maybe halfway through. Could do some analysis on the probability of a face card though that would really pay off towards the end of the shoe.

ec109685 10y ago
There are a lot of games that don't use auto shuffler still.
downandout 10y ago
Many casinos don't use auto-shufflers on all games, especially on higher limit games, because gamblers generally don't trust them. This applies to all casinos on the Strip that I'm aware of. Re: it being hard to figure out on 6-8 decks, the scenario presented was that his mind is a supercomputer with perfect memory and he has perfect vision. So he could very easily determine the exact order of an unlimited number of cards by watching the shuffle and knowing the starting order of the cards (that being said, you can walk into any high end casino on the strip and play up to 6 blackjack spots at $10,000 each on a hand-shuffled, double deck game - MGM, Aria, Bellagio, Mandalay Bay, Caesars Palace, The Mirage, etc). You're thinking in terms of human constraints; that's not what this hypothetical was about.
- tomschlick 10y ago
  Fair enough, I wasn't considering the high limit rooms use a manual shuffle. Still it would be pretty suspicious to walk in, go straight to a high limit table, watch a full shoe, wait until a shuffle happens, then buy in and shoot for the max and win more than the odds say you should.