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What is the fastest way for a robot with superhuman capabilities to make money?
- CarolineW 10y agoGet pocket money by going on and winning "Who wants to be a Millionaire" Play poker. Trade currency.
- pizza 10y agoFrom a computational complexity standpoint, the big-Oh of "superhuman" matters a whole lot; for fast-enough growing functions, even the most paltry of individual arbitrage opportunities will accumulate into more wealth than has ever existed..
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- pipio21 10y agoIf he does not feel pain, then he is not superhuman, but subhuman. When we designed an artificial limb, we "discovered" how useful pain is. We really need some skin that could discover on their own collisions with other objects, that should not be there, but are.
- rohit89 10y agoI sense injuries. The data could be called "pain". If you can self-heal from the worst of injuries, you don't need to feel pain.
- XorNot 10y agoI've always been curious if we'd interpret pain differently if we knew with certainty that any injuries it could represent would not be fatal, nor permanent.
- rohit89 10y agoI think so. Pain is a way of alerting us that some damage took place and that it needs to be taken care of. I imagine the brain would evolve to ignore pain since the people who feel it less would have an advantage over the ones who feel it even if both were self-healing. We already have a version of this with adrenaline to numb the pain so that we can get out of a dangerous situation.
- adontz 10y agoProbably OP mean pain does not interfere mental functions the way is does for living beings.
- smoyer 10y agoNow that my coworker Hydrothermal has outed me, I guess I should confess that I've been hiding in plain sight. on the bright side, I can finally be myself! You wouldn't believe what a relief this is as it's extremely hard to hide the fact that your arm grew back. The first time I used all my sick days but simply returning with the new arm gave me away (I didn't realize human medicine couldn't regenerate a limb).
- whack 10y agoNice try, but losing a limb was given as an example of a severe bodily trauma which the robot cannot heal ;)
- smoyer 10y agoOuch ... you're right! I seem to also confuse words that vary only by their prefixes (includes/excludes seem too similar to be antonyms - you humans seem to be converging on English which is clearly a sub-optimal language).
- btrask 10y agoLicense out portions of its own technology. It'd be worth billions.
- JetSpiegel 10y agoI liked the "use own brain to mine Bitcoin" comment.
- Turing_Machine 10y agoPolitics (using human shills as necessary).
- Animats 10y agoOnline poker to start, until enough money has been accumulated to move into hedge funds.
- adontz 10y agoReminds me of Limitless movie. Probably gambling (no identity required to start) is good idea for the first step, and stock exchange is good idea for the second step.
- downandout 10y agoYeah, definitely gambling to start. He could simply play through (or watch others play) a full blackjack shoe. Since he now knows the starting order of the cards, with his supercomputer mind he could easily analyze the shuffle, know the exact order of the cards after it, and bet accordingly - knowing in advance what hands both he and the dealer will have. In a place like Vegas he could easily win $1 million in one night, starting with a nominal amount ($100 for example). Then he could move onto the financial markets.
- tomschlick 10y agoYou wouldn't get to see the shuffle though, as most casinos will use an auto shuffler that shuffles one shoe while the other is in play. 6-8 decks would be hard to figure out until maybe halfway through. Could do some analysis on the probability of a face card though that would really pay off towards the end of the shoe.
- ec109685 10y agoThere are a lot of games that don't use auto shuffler still.
- downandout 10y agoMany casinos don't use auto-shufflers on all games, especially on higher limit games, because gamblers generally don't trust them. This applies to all casinos on the Strip that I'm aware of. Re: it being hard to figure out on 6-8 decks, the scenario presented was that his mind is a supercomputer with perfect memory and he has perfect vision. So he could very easily determine the exact order of an unlimited number of cards by watching the shuffle and knowing the starting order of the cards (that being said, you can walk into any high end casino on the strip and play up to 6 blackjack spots at $10,000 each on a hand-shuffled, double deck game - MGM, Aria, Bellagio, Mandalay Bay, Caesars Palace, The Mirage, etc). You're thinking in terms of human constraints; that's not what this hypothetical was about.
- uryga 10y agoWhy does the author refer to this unknown robot as "he"? What use could a gender be to a nonhuman superintelligence?
- blastrat 10y agowhy isn't the answer "hang around outside Yankee Stadium hitting balls, running, and catching them, till you get discovered and signed"? or something athletic like that. Seems a lot better than the "super productive web designer" answer that was getting love over on stackexchange. I considered boxing, but you probably have to pay too many dues (timewise) first. But you can be signed and stuck out on a baseball field pretty quick; signing bonuses, etc. Tennis? Basketball? Soccer (in one of the places that calls it football)? Golf? Where can you get a signing bonus and start hauling in the big money right away? Also worth mention, I have heard recently that there is a way to break PHP, hack Pornhub and earn $20k! edit: just out of curiosity, why was this answer disliked by somebody? cuz I said Yankees? soccer? athletics rather than nerd dreams? Cu-uz, I still think this is the best answer I have seen.
- soneca 10y agoIt would necessarily give him a lot of attention, which it wants to avoid according to the premises...
- blastrat 10y agowell, winning the world series of poker is the way to make a lot at poker, otherwise you aren't make a lot at poker. And etc. for a lot of other endeavors. The fun of the question is to engage in the speculation. The question didn't identify how much it was necessary to earn, and all the people saying "gambling" aren't saying how much is being talked about, etc. Even if you are a "lucky phenom kid" in baseball, you aren't all that famous till you establish a bit of a track record; plenty of journeymen players remain completely unkown, and our people-smart robot could calibrate his goodness (he's not even stronger than a human, he just has fast reaction times) I'm not trying to weasel out of your point, it's a good point, I'm trying to weasel into this thing being an interesting question, and find some parameters that would find an interesting answer. I'm still looking for the answer to, what does our economy recognize quickly and reward greatly, and how quick are we talking, and how greatly are we suggesting, and ok, how obscure can you remain? I think "super smart high end real estate broker" is lucrative and not that "famousy", and perhaps within the easy win range of this robot, but it's deathly dull so what would actually be a good, robust, and fun answer?
- HillaryBriss 10y agoThe described superhuman robot has so many capabilities that the question does not seem intriguing. There are so many powers and possibilities. Maybe some capabilities should be removed from this robot?
- blastrat 10y agoI felt like a lot of the answers people suggested were assuming it was actually more superhuman than we know it to be from the description. The intriguing part for me was simply the question "assuming you could win/succeed at any endeavor, what endeavors deliver how much reward how quickly?" i.e. not about the robot at all, but what will our economy quickly discover and reward, because "building a better Amazon than Amazon" or a better Microsoft or IKEA would still take decades to pay off.
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- awqrre 10y agoPlay Jeopardy and then gamble/manipulate the stock markets.
- blastrat 10y agocan you control getting onto Jeopardy quickly? And then there is no evidence that by being smart and informed that you can be smarter and better informed than the crowd-sourced stock market.
- lifeisstillgood 10y agoThe Talk Show circuit. Write a book about your life as a robot, throw in a couple of amusing anecdotes about being too heavy to swim, or trying to get through metal detectors at customs, then a heart rending story about not giving up on your dreams - robot or human. Option the rights to Hollywood and big money is yours. Spend it on replacing the diodes down your left hand side.
- noonespecial 10y agoI'd have to lean meta on this one. The superhuman would come up with a way previously unimaginable to pull it off on account of being superhuam and all. Thats kind of the point. The "fastest way" is to be superhuman isn't it?
- noonespecial 10y agoI'd have to lean meta on this one. The superhuman would come up with a way previously unimaginable to pull it off on account of being superhuam and all. Thats kind of the point. The "fastest way" is to be superhuman isn't it?
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- bitwize 10y agoBuild and sell cuckoo clocks?
- paulpauper 10y agoPut money in some sort of investment that exceeds inflation and then hibernates for 1000 years
- tedks 10y agoPessimistic answer: The robot wakes up, the humans are dead. Oh well. Optimistic answer: The robot wakes up and tries to find a bank. The robot goes to downtown San Francisco and can't find any, eventually asking a bald man wearing a strange-looking red and black leotard where the nearest bank is. "Bank? I don't believe there have been any banks here for some time." The man talks to you and quickly finds out the robot is from another time. He smiles wryly, and begins, "The economics of the future are somewhat different; you see, money doesn't exist in the 24th century..."
- duckingtest 10y agoWhat does the robot really want? Literally money? Power over people? Just the planet itself, with humans as nuisance? In any case, break in to a modern biotechnology lab with everything needed for genetic engineering. Create a highly infective biological thing (not necessarily a virus) that, after infection, creates a biological circuitry that makes a human perfectly obedient after some defined signal. A much simpler versions of that already exist [0]. Now just start infecting people and use their resources to spread it even wider. Even if a small part of a population is immune it's not a problem. Few days at most and you own everything. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavior-altering_parasites_and_parasitoids https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavior-altering_parasites_an...
- soneca 10y agoInside trading using lots of shell companies through lots of offshores. Use his people skills to gather confidential information, use his mental skills to disguise correctly the trading.
- soneca 10y agoCreating a crypto virtual currency, convincing a lot of key people to put trust in it, working behind shadows to make its value goes unprecedently high. Uses an admittedly fake name to uncover its identity while still managing to create trust that it is ok for it to keep most of the value that this crypto-currency is creating.
- RandyRanderson 10y agoEasy: Superhuman sex robot. Call it Frank Furter. It would be a doctor, of course.
- sporkologist 10y agoGo to Vegas, then hire Saul Goodman to handle the rest.
- percept 10y agoSurprised nobody mentioned HFT. He also sounds like the sort of candidate many startups are looking for in their job ads. So there's that.
- burger_moon 10y agoSomeone from stackexchange mentioned ARM and creating a company that designs chips. This robot has a brain that is a supercomputer all self contained within that runs off small amounts of oxygen. Since it has such a high level of intelligence it should be able to blueprint itself. Once the robot is able to recreate itself, it could go 2 ways, either selling off parts of it like compact supercomputers, or build an army of other superhuman robots and take over the world. To get started however, a bit of online gambling is probably necessary to get the required funds.