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1. This is a complete straw man, no one wants to accept the intolerant into our society. They merely want to help those who are in dire need. The majority of Mu

1. This is a complete straw man, no one wants to accept the intolerant into our society. They merely want to help those who are in dire need. The majority of Muslims don't care what others do, they just want to follow their own religion in peace, and those are the kind of people they want to help. 2. This isn't a democrat thing, every political ideology has some extremists that are intolerant of everyone that doesn't support their view. The only reason for saying this is to create an us vs them dichotomy. Saying this will never ever lead to positive political discussions. 3. Is he really? I see it like this: The reason manufacturing and unskilled labor jobs are disappearing is because the free market favors things being produced in China. When given the choice of buying Chinese made for cheaper vs paying more for local goods people chose the Chinese products. The less government involvement, the better markets work, and the truth is the markets favor cheaper products made overseas, that's why this is happening. The only way that these jobs can be brought back to America is by government force, which means more government involvement in trade and business. In a world where anyone can do unskilled labor there's no reason for companies to take more expensive American unskilled labor over anyone else, and without government intervention that's always going to be the case. I don't see any possible way that "better trade deals" are going to both help these workers and boost the economy. You can either choose free markets, which favor capital and a persons value to society and are the best for the overall economy. Or you can choose protected markets which involve more government and help some people to the detriment of others. There's no way you can have both less government and a more equal economic system. Trump is promising a solution he almost certainly knows he can't deliver to take advantage of the economically illiterate. This is why the so many elites in the republican party hate him. He's running as a republican on a democratic economic platform (more equality) but still saying he's going to have less government, which they know is impossible to do. Unfortunately so many republicans are brainwashed into thinking the democrats are incompetent and only want to increase government because they can. While in truth the increased size of the government is the side effect of trying to make society more equal. The saddest thing is if Trump gets in if he goes for free markets and less government (which as he is a business man I think he will, but we'll see) he's going to devastate these people (the unskilled blue collar workers, his biggest fan base) lives even more than they currently are and that's the real tragedy of the rise of Trump.

DominikR 10y ago
> 1. This is a complete straw man, no one wants to accept the intolerant into our society. They merely want to help those who are in dire need. The majority of Muslims don't care what others do, they just want to follow their own religion in peace, and those are the kind of people they want to help. http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-morality/ http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religi... Only in 3 out of 36 Muslim countries surveyed 1 in 10 Muslims believes that homosexuality is morally acceptable. This means that even in those 3 most tolerant Muslim countries 90% view homosexuality as unacceptable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_terr... In the Muslim areas of Northern Africa and the Middle East you'll find that homosexuality is almost universally criminalised. People living in Muslim countries overwhelmingly disapprove and many even hate homosexuals and that's why this orientation is criminalised in their countries. Yet when they come to Europe or the US they magically turn into gay tolerant citizens? > 2. This isn't a democrat thing, every political ideology has some extremists that are intolerant of everyone that doesn't support their view. The only reason for saying this is to create an us vs them dichotomy. Saying this will never ever lead to positive political discussions. You don't actually believe that anyone has to fear for his job, family and life if he supports Liberals in the West like Hillary. I've never seen even one example of someone getting fired for supporting Liberals in the West, yet I've seen many reports of people who were fired because someone made a screenshot of an anti Hillary or pro Trump comment and sent it to their bosses. > 3. Is he really? I see it like this: The reason manufacturing and unskilled labor jobs are disappearing is because the free market favors things being produced in China.... What I said is that regulations and increased taxes inhibit private sector growth at the cost of government growth, I didn't say anything about China or low skilled labor. We in the West could increase our competitiveness with lower taxes, less regulations and more freedoms, because this also directly effects the cost of production. No trade wars needed. Instead all we do is increase taxes, create more debt and over regulate everything. And why do we need this? Because we have a social system in place since the 60ties that is supposedly fighting poverty and is constantly growing, yet poverty gets worse and worse. And then there's public schools that are run by Liberals for decades now, which have gotten so bad that I honestly consider the possibility that they are actually trying hard to produce as many poor, illiterate and government dependant people/voters as possible.

DominikR 10y ago

> 1. This is a complete straw man, no one wants to accept the intolerant into our society. They merely want to help those who are in dire need. The majority of Muslims don't care what others do, they just want to follow their own religion in peace, and those are the kind of people they want to help. http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-morality/ http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religi... Only in 3 out of 36 Muslim countries surveyed 1 in 10 Muslims believes that homosexuality is morally acceptable. This means that even in those 3 most tolerant Muslim countries 90% view homosexuality as unacceptable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_terr... In the Muslim areas of Northern Africa and the Middle East you'll find that homosexuality is almost universally criminalised. People living in Muslim countries overwhelmingly disapprove and many even hate homosexuals and that's why this orientation is criminalised in their countries. Yet when they come to Europe or the US they magically turn into gay tolerant citizens? > 2. This isn't a democrat thing, every political ideology has some extremists that are intolerant of everyone that doesn't support their view. The only reason for saying this is to create an us vs them dichotomy. Saying this will never ever lead to positive political discussions. You don't actually believe that anyone has to fear for his job, family and life if he supports Liberals in the West like Hillary. I've never seen even one example of someone getting fired for supporting Liberals in the West, yet I've seen many reports of people who were fired because someone made a screenshot of an anti Hillary or pro Trump comment and sent it to their bosses. > 3. Is he really? I see it like this: The reason manufacturing and unskilled labor jobs are disappearing is because the free market favors things being produced in China.... What I said is that regulations and increased taxes inhibit private sector growth at the cost of government growth, I didn't say anything about China or low skilled labor. We in the West could increase our competitiveness with lower taxes, less regulations and more freedoms, because this also directly effects the cost of production. No trade wars needed. Instead all we do is increase taxes, create more debt and over regulate everything. And why do we need this? Because we have a social system in place since the 60ties that is supposedly fighting poverty and is constantly growing, yet poverty gets worse and worse. And then there's public schools that are run by Liberals for decades now, which have gotten so bad that I honestly consider the possibility that they are actually trying hard to produce as many poor, illiterate and government dependant people/voters as possible.