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Correct, I remember reading about that feature before a month - although there already exist a lot of tail like solutions for windows there wasn't any de facto

Correct, I remember reading about that feature before a month - although there already exist a lot of tail like solutions for windows there wasn't any de facto standard like unix tail, something that I feel will change now with that notepad++ feature! For using the tail feature with remote files, have you tried it through the ftp notepad++ plugin? I'm not in front if my pc right now so I cant test it myself...

tpatke 10y ago
I realize I am biased, but I don't get it. Notepad++ and other tools are not designed around viewing log files. They are text editors. People use tools like Notepad++ to view log files because, traditionally, there hasn't been anything better. Remote access is a good example. I am actually working right now on getting tail for remote servers working in [redacted]. FTP tailing a file is a special feature because you do not want to redownload a 1GB file every 3 seconds. The idea of a forward read-only file is a special concept. If I am using Notepad++ as a text editor, I want it to download the whole file because there may be important changes to the beginning of the document. If I am using it as a log viewer, then I need to provide a special configuration to the FTP agent. Not impossible, but the overlap in behaviour for the tool can be confusing. The additional configuration makes it harder when using it as a text editor and harder when using it as a log viewer. It starts to make the tool less useful for both tasks. Now add additional features like grep, merging files, very large files (4 GB+), etc and it becomes clear that Notepad++ is a text editor. It is a fantastic tool, but not fit for every task. Disclosure: I am the author of [redacted].
- crispyambulance 10y ago
  You're right. Notepad++ is a more of a general purpose text tool. I got into the habit of using it to open HUNDREDS of files at the same time and perform ad-hoc interactive searching and data extraction to prep for further processing in R. I've not seen any editor that can work effectively with so many files totaling a huge size. Would like to try Emacs for this stuff someday but Notepad++ works great and is easy to use.
- spapas82 10y ago
  Hello, agreed on your point about large, read only remote log files. I'm not sure if it will work at all. However notepad++ is a very popular editor and will probably be the first tool people will use to view a log file - that's why I talked about a de facto standard. If it doesn't cover the needs of some people then they will try other tools that may cover them - but only after they try with the tool they already use!

tpatke 10y ago

I realize I am biased, but I don't get it. Notepad++ and other tools are not designed around viewing log files. They are text editors. People use tools like Notepad++ to view log files because, traditionally, there hasn't been anything better. Remote access is a good example. I am actually working right now on getting tail for remote servers working in [redacted]. FTP tailing a file is a special feature because you do not want to redownload a 1GB file every 3 seconds. The idea of a forward read-only file is a special concept. If I am using Notepad++ as a text editor, I want it to download the whole file because there may be important changes to the beginning of the document. If I am using it as a log viewer, then I need to provide a special configuration to the FTP agent. Not impossible, but the overlap in behaviour for the tool can be confusing. The additional configuration makes it harder when using it as a text editor and harder when using it as a log viewer. It starts to make the tool less useful for both tasks. Now add additional features like grep, merging files, very large files (4 GB+), etc and it becomes clear that Notepad++ is a text editor. It is a fantastic tool, but not fit for every task. Disclosure: I am the author of [redacted].

crispyambulance 10y ago
You're right. Notepad++ is a more of a general purpose text tool. I got into the habit of using it to open HUNDREDS of files at the same time and perform ad-hoc interactive searching and data extraction to prep for further processing in R. I've not seen any editor that can work effectively with so many files totaling a huge size. Would like to try Emacs for this stuff someday but Notepad++ works great and is easy to use.
spapas82 10y ago
Hello, agreed on your point about large, read only remote log files. I'm not sure if it will work at all. However notepad++ is a very popular editor and will probably be the first tool people will use to view a log file - that's why I talked about a de facto standard. If it doesn't cover the needs of some people then they will try other tools that may cover them - but only after they try with the tool they already use!