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I am vegetarian (leaning mostly toward veganism) myself and this seems a bit of an overkill... Would you mind explain this a bit more or posting a link to some

by Pamar 10y ago

I am vegetarian (leaning mostly toward veganism) myself and this seems a bit of an overkill... Would you mind explain this a bit more or posting a link to some resource explaining this? I am curious.

erikpukinskis 10y ago
Happy to explain more. Let me know what part seems unclear. An example: The cow chews grain. The vegan chef grinds it. The cow ferments plants and seeds in its stomach. The vegan chef ferments in her crock. The cow extracts sugars, fats and proteins, via her metabolism. The vegan chef uses presses and filters. The cow measures salt with her thirst, and integrates proteins and sugars in her mammaries. The vegan chef measures with a teaspoon and integrates ingredients in a blender. The cow tills seeds under the earth with her hoof. The vegan chef presses them into the garden with a finger. Meat and animal products are the output of the lives of animals. The inputs are plants. Vegan cooking is recreating this work in a consensual way.
- Pamar 10y ago
  Yeah, ok - excepts that, first of all, non-vegan cooking has more or less the same steps. I.e. you can still decide that your steak needs some more salt, or spices, I never heard of people eating their beef "unflavoured" because the cow measured salt by thirst. So what triggered my curiosity was that you were presenting this like extra work needed for vegan dishes only. Maybe I misunderstood.
  - erikpukinskis 10y ago
    Sure, you can do things to meat to make it taste better. But just applying heat and salt to a nice piece of meat gets you pretty close to the most delicious possible thing you could put in your mouth. Maybe I can put it this way: Meat starts at an 8, and you can add complexity to get it up to a 10. But a dry soybean starts at a 0. You can get it up to an 8 by doing a lot of vegan chef work. Or you can get it up to an 8 by letting an animal turn it into meat. My point is that someone has to do the work to get it to an 8. If it's not an animal, it's got to be the chef.

by Pamar 10y ago

I am vegetarian (leaning mostly toward veganism) myself and this seems a bit of an overkill... Would you mind explain this a bit more or posting a link to some resource explaining this? I am curious.

erikpukinskis 10y ago

Happy to explain more. Let me know what part seems unclear. An example: The cow chews grain. The vegan chef grinds it. The cow ferments plants and seeds in its stomach. The vegan chef ferments in her crock. The cow extracts sugars, fats and proteins, via her metabolism. The vegan chef uses presses and filters. The cow measures salt with her thirst, and integrates proteins and sugars in her mammaries. The vegan chef measures with a teaspoon and integrates ingredients in a blender. The cow tills seeds under the earth with her hoof. The vegan chef presses them into the garden with a finger. Meat and animal products are the output of the lives of animals. The inputs are plants. Vegan cooking is recreating this work in a consensual way.

Pamar 10y ago
Yeah, ok - excepts that, first of all, non-vegan cooking has more or less the same steps. I.e. you can still decide that your steak needs some more salt, or spices, I never heard of people eating their beef "unflavoured" because the cow measured salt by thirst. So what triggered my curiosity was that you were presenting this like extra work needed for vegan dishes only. Maybe I misunderstood.
- erikpukinskis 10y ago
  Sure, you can do things to meat to make it taste better. But just applying heat and salt to a nice piece of meat gets you pretty close to the most delicious possible thing you could put in your mouth. Maybe I can put it this way: Meat starts at an 8, and you can add complexity to get it up to a 10. But a dry soybean starts at a 0. You can get it up to an 8 by doing a lot of vegan chef work. Or you can get it up to an 8 by letting an animal turn it into meat. My point is that someone has to do the work to get it to an 8. If it's not an animal, it's got to be the chef.