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Dead googlecode URLs on GitHub

79 points by ivank 10y ago

buckbova 10y ago
Interesting but does it matter? Commented out anyway.  Edit: I know it's only commented out for > ie8. But right now, that's nearly everyone. And I personally still write ie8 compatible code for what it's worth. Stuck on old jquery, old angular, all sorts of shims, etc. Not saying it is the definitive truth but w3schools puts it at 0.1% < ie9. http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_explorer.asp http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_explorer.asp
- joshstrange 10y ago
  It's only commented out for non-IE browsers and IE versions >= IE 9. See http://www.quirksmode.org/css/condcom.html http://www.quirksmode.org/css/condcom.html Edit: Fixing logic
  - matthewbauer 10y ago
    It's the other way around: it's only enabled for < IE 9.
    - joshstrange 10y ago
      That's what I meant to say haha, I got distracted mid-comment and forgot I was saying it was commented out.
- chipperyman573 10y ago
  The w3schools data is most likely flawed as the majority of people accessing it are WebDevs who would not be using lt IE 9
- nathancahill 10y ago
  You write IE8 code and don't recognize <!--[if lt IE 9]> ?
  - buckbova 10y ago
    Of course I recognize it. What I'm inferring is ie8 is near extinction (I hope) and it’s just comments now. I've been writing software used in the medical field. And apparently they have a hard time letting go of ie8 and my team hasn't been given the thumbs up to forget about ie8 yet.
- luhn 10y ago
  W3School's browser usage stats only reflects traffic on their site, which is a heavily biased sample. The best source I've found for browser stats is gs.statcounter.com, which puts IE8 usage at a bit over 1%.
Cenk 10y ago
Isn’t this part of Bootstrap, HTML5Reset etc?
- janaagaard 10y ago
  I think it used to be part of HTML5 Builerplate.
erlehmann_ 10y ago
A guy I know years ago insisted that it is far safer to put your content in the cloud than on your personal website, as big corporations will not go down. Something like this will happen to content on Facebook and GitHub as well, sooner or later.
- djsumdog 10y ago
  Geocities is gone. Your old MySpace profile, photos and wall. All your digg comments and submissions if you ever used that. I host all my own stuff, but unless I get my shit together and create a set of docs for someone I trust, once I die, my domain, e-mail and all my blogs will disappear and accounts expire and credit card payments fail -- except for whatever wayback might tag important enough to index. The great libraries of Greece, the technology used to build the Pyramids of Giza, the process the Romans used to make concrete ... all lost. Sure we can reconstruct and examine, but so much is filling in the gaps with guess world. If some alien race found our hard drives and CDs long after we had gone extinct, where would you even begin to decode the data without a rosetta stone?
  - erlehmann_ 10y ago
    To save a web page with the wayback machine, append its URL to http://web.archive.org/save/ http://web.archive.org/save/ and GET the resulting URL. I have two archive.org webjumps for the conkeror browser: define_webjump("wayback", "http://web.archive.org/*/%s"); define_webjump("wbsave", function(url) { return "http://web.archive.org/save/"+url; } );
  - johansch 10y ago
    Your old digg data: http://digg.com/archive http://digg.com/archive
    - johansch 10y ago
      ..but when I entered my email address there the page told me they had sent me an email with further instructions. 3 hours later - no email. :/ Rant from a person who is not in Silicon Valley: This is so fucking typical of SV. No commitments, no stability, no personal pride in keeping things working for decades if needed. Just the hunt for the next thing, and fuck whatever you worked on last month.
chrismarlow9 10y ago
I've been considering the historical aspect of social networks and "personal pages" as an attack vector for a while (with respect to bad practice for removal). What happens when person "xyz" registers a domain, builds a personal site, and begins to signup for "whatever.com" under that email and then the domain lapses? Re-registering the domain would be easy and capturing/selling the credentials would be easy. Once you get an email running a "forgot password" on the "to" address across the top 500 domains might yield something fun. Also catching these specific type domains in drop would be easy with firstname/lastname scan. Cheap as well. Basically fraud based domain squatting.
- cag_ii 10y ago
  Similar concerns were raised a couple of years ago when Yahoo thought (foolishly) that it would be a good idea to "recycle" email addresses: http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/20/tech/web/yahoo-recycled-email/ http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/20/tech/web/yahoo-recycled-email/
  - homero 10y ago
    Do they still do it? That's horrific
    - JeremyBanks 10y ago
      Hotmail/Outlook used to(?) do this as well. I had an account expire ~10 years ago. Somebody else registered the address and used it for several years, then eventually let it expire as well. Last year, I re-registered it, and used it to recover access to an account I created a long long time ago.
      - homero 10y ago
        I'm still trying to recover my neopets account from 15 years ago, I used a bad birthdate
- akeruu 10y ago
  Actually, this is not a new idea. Entire block of IP adresses are known to have been highjacked this way and are now used for spam purposes. Squatters reclaim the block with various ploys including registering an abandoned domain name to accept email to the point-of-contact domain contact. [0] [0] https://www.spamhaus.org/faq/section/DROP%20FAQ#258 https://www.spamhaus.org/faq/section/DROP%20FAQ#258
allendoerfer 10y ago
Some job site should really build a pull request bot.
- caffeinewriter 10y ago
  Or why not some enterprising job seeker? That'd be one thing to put on the resume. "Contributed fixes to thousands of Github repositories."
- adius 10y ago
  http://feram.co http://feram.co
philip1209 10y ago
As a reminder to Go package maintainers: Please tag your releases. Many companies* use http://glide.sh http://glide.sh for package management. By default, it grabs the last tagged build, not master. We've encountered broken code.google.com links on the last tagged release, and it's not a great experience to override to a hash. * e.g. Uber uses it https://github.com/uber/tchannel-go https://github.com/uber/tchannel-go
- ocdtrekkie 10y ago
  As a note: "Uber" is not a good citation for "Many companies". ;) But I totally lament the lack of use of tagged releases on GitHub. Sometimes I am looking for versions before some things but after others, for some reason, and it can be very hard to find in a commit list where the code was stable/functional. Depending on the repository, you often can't trust current master to be stable code either.
  - philip1209 10y ago
    Totally fair - my point was that users are beyond just early adopters. Glide doesn't keep a good record of public users.
- GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
  This looks like a failure in the go package management methodology.
  - philip1209 10y ago
    Go has no package management philosophy. It works well if you're using Bazel/Blaze. Not so well if you're grabbing a library off of Github.
    - deleted 10y ago
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- XorNot 10y ago
metaos 10y ago
linking to third-party scripts is foolish. the speed gain is outweighed by the cost of the additional attack vector & point of failure.
alexperezpaya 10y ago
https://github.com/search?utf8=&q=googlecode.com%2Fsvn%2Ftrunk&type=Code&ref=searchresults https://github.com/search?utf8=&q=googlecode.com%2Fsvn%2Ftru...
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79 points by ivank 10y ago

Interesting but does it matter? Commented out anyway.  Edit: I know it's only commented out for > ie8. But right now, that's nearly everyone. And I personally still write ie8 compatible code for what it's worth. Stuck on old jquery, old angular, all sorts of shims, etc. Not saying it is the definitive truth but w3schools puts it at 0.1% < ie9. http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_explorer.asp http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_explorer.asp

joshstrange 10y ago
It's only commented out for non-IE browsers and IE versions >= IE 9. See http://www.quirksmode.org/css/condcom.html http://www.quirksmode.org/css/condcom.html Edit: Fixing logic
- matthewbauer 10y ago
  It's the other way around: it's only enabled for < IE 9.
  - joshstrange 10y ago
    That's what I meant to say haha, I got distracted mid-comment and forgot I was saying it was commented out.
chipperyman573 10y ago
The w3schools data is most likely flawed as the majority of people accessing it are WebDevs who would not be using lt IE 9
nathancahill 10y ago
You write IE8 code and don't recognize <!--[if lt IE 9]> ?
- buckbova 10y ago
  Of course I recognize it. What I'm inferring is ie8 is near extinction (I hope) and it’s just comments now. I've been writing software used in the medical field. And apparently they have a hard time letting go of ie8 and my team hasn't been given the thumbs up to forget about ie8 yet.
luhn 10y ago
W3School's browser usage stats only reflects traffic on their site, which is a heavily biased sample. The best source I've found for browser stats is gs.statcounter.com, which puts IE8 usage at a bit over 1%.

Cenk 10y ago

Isn’t this part of Bootstrap, HTML5Reset etc?

janaagaard 10y ago
I think it used to be part of HTML5 Builerplate.

erlehmann_ 10y ago

A guy I know years ago insisted that it is far safer to put your content in the cloud than on your personal website, as big corporations will not go down. Something like this will happen to content on Facebook and GitHub as well, sooner or later.

djsumdog 10y ago
Geocities is gone. Your old MySpace profile, photos and wall. All your digg comments and submissions if you ever used that. I host all my own stuff, but unless I get my shit together and create a set of docs for someone I trust, once I die, my domain, e-mail and all my blogs will disappear and accounts expire and credit card payments fail -- except for whatever wayback might tag important enough to index. The great libraries of Greece, the technology used to build the Pyramids of Giza, the process the Romans used to make concrete ... all lost. Sure we can reconstruct and examine, but so much is filling in the gaps with guess world. If some alien race found our hard drives and CDs long after we had gone extinct, where would you even begin to decode the data without a rosetta stone?
- erlehmann_ 10y ago
  To save a web page with the wayback machine, append its URL to http://web.archive.org/save/ http://web.archive.org/save/ and GET the resulting URL. I have two archive.org webjumps for the conkeror browser: define_webjump("wayback", "http://web.archive.org/*/%s"); define_webjump("wbsave", function(url) { return "http://web.archive.org/save/"+url; } );
- johansch 10y ago
  Your old digg data: http://digg.com/archive http://digg.com/archive
  - johansch 10y ago
    ..but when I entered my email address there the page told me they had sent me an email with further instructions. 3 hours later - no email. :/ Rant from a person who is not in Silicon Valley: This is so fucking typical of SV. No commitments, no stability, no personal pride in keeping things working for decades if needed. Just the hunt for the next thing, and fuck whatever you worked on last month.

chrismarlow9 10y ago

I've been considering the historical aspect of social networks and "personal pages" as an attack vector for a while (with respect to bad practice for removal). What happens when person "xyz" registers a domain, builds a personal site, and begins to signup for "whatever.com" under that email and then the domain lapses? Re-registering the domain would be easy and capturing/selling the credentials would be easy. Once you get an email running a "forgot password" on the "to" address across the top 500 domains might yield something fun. Also catching these specific type domains in drop would be easy with firstname/lastname scan. Cheap as well. Basically fraud based domain squatting.

cag_ii 10y ago
Similar concerns were raised a couple of years ago when Yahoo thought (foolishly) that it would be a good idea to "recycle" email addresses: http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/20/tech/web/yahoo-recycled-email/ http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/20/tech/web/yahoo-recycled-email/
- homero 10y ago
  Do they still do it? That's horrific
  - JeremyBanks 10y ago
    Hotmail/Outlook used to(?) do this as well. I had an account expire ~10 years ago. Somebody else registered the address and used it for several years, then eventually let it expire as well. Last year, I re-registered it, and used it to recover access to an account I created a long long time ago.
    - homero 10y ago
      I'm still trying to recover my neopets account from 15 years ago, I used a bad birthdate
akeruu 10y ago
Actually, this is not a new idea. Entire block of IP adresses are known to have been highjacked this way and are now used for spam purposes. Squatters reclaim the block with various ploys including registering an abandoned domain name to accept email to the point-of-contact domain contact. [0] [0] https://www.spamhaus.org/faq/section/DROP%20FAQ#258 https://www.spamhaus.org/faq/section/DROP%20FAQ#258

allendoerfer 10y ago

Some job site should really build a pull request bot.

caffeinewriter 10y ago
Or why not some enterprising job seeker? That'd be one thing to put on the resume. "Contributed fixes to thousands of Github repositories."
adius 10y ago
http://feram.co http://feram.co

philip1209 10y ago

As a reminder to Go package maintainers: Please tag your releases. Many companies* use http://glide.sh http://glide.sh for package management. By default, it grabs the last tagged build, not master. We've encountered broken code.google.com links on the last tagged release, and it's not a great experience to override to a hash. * e.g. Uber uses it https://github.com/uber/tchannel-go https://github.com/uber/tchannel-go

ocdtrekkie 10y ago
As a note: "Uber" is not a good citation for "Many companies". ;) But I totally lament the lack of use of tagged releases on GitHub. Sometimes I am looking for versions before some things but after others, for some reason, and it can be very hard to find in a commit list where the code was stable/functional. Depending on the repository, you often can't trust current master to be stable code either.
- philip1209 10y ago
  Totally fair - my point was that users are beyond just early adopters. Glide doesn't keep a good record of public users.
GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
This looks like a failure in the go package management methodology.
- philip1209 10y ago
  Go has no package management philosophy. It works well if you're using Bazel/Blaze. Not so well if you're grabbing a library off of Github.
  - deleted 10y ago
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XorNot 10y ago

metaos 10y ago

linking to third-party scripts is foolish. the speed gain is outweighed by the cost of the additional attack vector & point of failure.

alexperezpaya 10y ago

https://github.com/search?utf8=&q=googlecode.com%2Fsvn%2Ftrunk&type=Code&ref=searchresults https://github.com/search?utf8=&q=googlecode.com%2Fsvn%2Ftru...

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