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Peter Thiel and the Ice Storm

3 points by Argothair 10y ago

blackflame7000 10y ago
There's no pleasing you. Peter Thiel had the courage to get on stage at the RNC and proclaim he was gay, thereby opening a dialog in the republican party. This is how you affect change. Through debate and discussion. It turns out more people will listen when you stop calling them bigots at the first controversial point of view.
- Aelinsaar 10y ago
  The courage to say what people already know, to people who protect his financial interests, yet despise him for who he is? The party that just nominated Trump for god's sake? What a hero.
- Argothair 10y ago
  Hi, Blackflame. I didn't call Peter Thiel a bigot, and I don't think Peter Thiel is a bigot. I do think he's remarkably unconcerned about other people's problems. I would never criticize anyone for having a debate or a discussion, but Peter Thiel just heartily endorsed Donald Trump for President, even though Trump's platform explicitly and repeatedly calls for treating gay people (and lots of other people) as second-class citizens. There's a big difference between a debate and an endorsement.
  - internaut 10y ago
    > I do think he's remarkably unconcerned about other people's problems. With respect to this and the blog post on poverty I cannot agree. Thiel has been complaining that outside of Silicon Valley people are not getting wealthier for at least a decade and a half. There's even a video in 2008 where he angrily accuses Eric Schmidt of telling people to eat iPhones. If anything he is remarkably concerned with other people's problems compared to his contemporaries. The common belief in many wealthy circles is that everything is progressing onwards and upwards (look at any blog posts by Peter Diamandis). Unfortunately this is utterly afactual when you subtract computation and its effects. The average person's intuition is actually correct about the economy and the communities of the wealthy are basically self constructed Potemkin villages.
- kafkaesq 10y ago
  Peter Thiel had the courage to get on stage at the RNC and proclaim he was gay, It's probably more accurate to say that he bought himself the privilege.

3 points by Argothair 10y ago

There's no pleasing you. Peter Thiel had the courage to get on stage at the RNC and proclaim he was gay, thereby opening a dialog in the republican party. This is how you affect change. Through debate and discussion. It turns out more people will listen when you stop calling them bigots at the first controversial point of view.

Aelinsaar 10y ago
The courage to say what people already know, to people who protect his financial interests, yet despise him for who he is? The party that just nominated Trump for god's sake? What a hero.
Argothair 10y ago
Hi, Blackflame. I didn't call Peter Thiel a bigot, and I don't think Peter Thiel is a bigot. I do think he's remarkably unconcerned about other people's problems. I would never criticize anyone for having a debate or a discussion, but Peter Thiel just heartily endorsed Donald Trump for President, even though Trump's platform explicitly and repeatedly calls for treating gay people (and lots of other people) as second-class citizens. There's a big difference between a debate and an endorsement.
- internaut 10y ago
  > I do think he's remarkably unconcerned about other people's problems. With respect to this and the blog post on poverty I cannot agree. Thiel has been complaining that outside of Silicon Valley people are not getting wealthier for at least a decade and a half. There's even a video in 2008 where he angrily accuses Eric Schmidt of telling people to eat iPhones. If anything he is remarkably concerned with other people's problems compared to his contemporaries. The common belief in many wealthy circles is that everything is progressing onwards and upwards (look at any blog posts by Peter Diamandis). Unfortunately this is utterly afactual when you subtract computation and its effects. The average person's intuition is actually correct about the economy and the communities of the wealthy are basically self constructed Potemkin villages.
kafkaesq 10y ago
Peter Thiel had the courage to get on stage at the RNC and proclaim he was gay, It's probably more accurate to say that he bought himself the privilege.