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I don't understand why these products are always pitched as a consumer product when this is an enterprise dream come true. People are fickle and refuse to chang

I don't understand why these products are always pitched as a consumer product when this is an enterprise dream come true. People are fickle and refuse to change their personal habits, but using my phone as a thin client sounds a lot more appealing than having separate laptops for work & play.

aj7 10y ago
Agree 100%. Waiting for Apple to do this (for a long time now.)
jszymborski 10y ago
The problem I see with this is that, even if the phone is work property, it's still often used for play as well as work (because who carries around a work mobile as well as a personal). Blackberry tried to address this problem, but I think we all can agree that they were unable to address pretty much any problem at that point. A little OT but... I'd very much like to see a Qubes-like OS for my phone, so I can use one VM for e.g Work, another for Banking, another for Personal, so I don't have to worry about a messed up permission system or my Banking creds being leaked by some rando gobble-all-your-info app-of-the-month. Of course that's just a dream until battery life and ARM CPUs approach laptop performance.
- jonknee 10y ago
  > The problem I see with this is that, even if the phone is work property, it's still often used for play as well as work (because who carries around a work mobile as well as a personal). A lot of people carry around two phones, specifically the same type of people who have two laptops.
  - jszymborski 10y ago
    > A lot of people Well, I'll push back on the phrase "a lot", but point taken.
    - jonknee 10y ago
      I guess it depends on your circles, but most professionals I know have multiple phones. It is not as common in tech circles I guess. Most attorneys I know have two. Ditto for finance people. If you've ever done e-discovery work you will want two devices!
      - jszymborski 10y ago
        I've definitely given it thought in the past but disregarded it as silly, but you might have convinced me!
- schnevets 10y ago
  I went from a compliance-heavy field where everyone received a second work phone to a laid-back, BYOD office, and I oftentimes miss the former. I didn't have to deal with a split environment, and I never had issues with contacts or messages failing to sync.

aj7 10y ago

Agree 100%. Waiting for Apple to do this (for a long time now.)

jszymborski 10y ago

The problem I see with this is that, even if the phone is work property, it's still often used for play as well as work (because who carries around a work mobile as well as a personal). Blackberry tried to address this problem, but I think we all can agree that they were unable to address pretty much any problem at that point. A little OT but... I'd very much like to see a Qubes-like OS for my phone, so I can use one VM for e.g Work, another for Banking, another for Personal, so I don't have to worry about a messed up permission system or my Banking creds being leaked by some rando gobble-all-your-info app-of-the-month. Of course that's just a dream until battery life and ARM CPUs approach laptop performance.

jonknee 10y ago
> The problem I see with this is that, even if the phone is work property, it's still often used for play as well as work (because who carries around a work mobile as well as a personal). A lot of people carry around two phones, specifically the same type of people who have two laptops.
- jszymborski 10y ago
  > A lot of people Well, I'll push back on the phrase "a lot", but point taken.
  - jonknee 10y ago
    I guess it depends on your circles, but most professionals I know have multiple phones. It is not as common in tech circles I guess. Most attorneys I know have two. Ditto for finance people. If you've ever done e-discovery work you will want two devices!
    - jszymborski 10y ago
      I've definitely given it thought in the past but disregarded it as silly, but you might have convinced me!
schnevets 10y ago
I went from a compliance-heavy field where everyone received a second work phone to a laid-back, BYOD office, and I oftentimes miss the former. I didn't have to deal with a split environment, and I never had issues with contacts or messages failing to sync.