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>It's not fun and games at this point. History will judge us. And your pro-Trump comments will be on record forever Wow. Take a deep breath and tone down your

by jazzyk 10y ago

>It's not fun and games at this point. History will judge us. And your pro-Trump comments will be on record forever Wow. Take a deep breath and tone down your hysteria a bit: 1. How does adding context to a comment taken out of context makes me "pro-Trump"? 2. How is properly vetting immigrants, in particular from high-risk countries, bigotry?

foldr 10y ago
> How does adding context to a comment taken out of context makes me "pro-Trump"? Because you're apologising for his bigotry. The fact that the ban is (allegedly) temporary makes it no less bigoted and no more defensible. This is probably going to be quite a close election. Everyone should be speaking out against Trump, not trying to help him weasel out of taking responsibility for the awful things he's said. >How is properly vetting immigrants, in particular from high-risk countries, bigotry? What a disingenuous comment. I made it perfectly clear that I was talking about his proposal to ban all Muslims from entering the US. You and the OP would love to pretend that he never made that proposal, but he did.
- jazzyk 10y ago
  >"his proposal to ban all Muslims from entering the US" He asked that immigration from certain countries be temporarily halted, to introduce a proper vetting process. Your highly emotional reasoning (I am "apologising for his bigotry"?) makes me rest my case.
  - foldr 10y ago
    I’m surprised that you’re making such a brazen attempt to rewrite history. He was recorded calling for a complete ban on all Muslims entering the US. Were you really not aware of this? You quoted his "what the hell is going on" words from this video clip, so I think you must have seen it, and I think you must have been aware of what he actually said. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2015/dec/08/donald-trump-calls-for-complete-ban-on-muslims-entering-the-us-video https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2015/dec/08/donald...
    - dang 10y ago
      Please stop, both of you. HN is no place for political spats, and you've both crossed into incivility.
      - foldr 10y ago
        You can't really complain about political discussions occurring in this context. We're commenting on a link to an article about Peter Thiel speaking at the Republican convention. If you don't want political discussions on the site (which is fine), you should just remove this topic altogether. When someone says something that's flatly untrue on HN, I think it's appropriate to correct that. There is no reason why Trump or his supporters should get a free pass to rewrite history without being challenged on it. If, however, it is your view that there are certain political ideologies or candidates which have a special "protected status" on HN, then I will moderate my comments in future accordingly. I did not think that there was any such policy, though.

by jazzyk 10y ago

foldr 10y ago

> How does adding context to a comment taken out of context makes me "pro-Trump"? Because you're apologising for his bigotry. The fact that the ban is (allegedly) temporary makes it no less bigoted and no more defensible. This is probably going to be quite a close election. Everyone should be speaking out against Trump, not trying to help him weasel out of taking responsibility for the awful things he's said. >How is properly vetting immigrants, in particular from high-risk countries, bigotry? What a disingenuous comment. I made it perfectly clear that I was talking about his proposal to ban all Muslims from entering the US. You and the OP would love to pretend that he never made that proposal, but he did.

jazzyk 10y ago
>"his proposal to ban all Muslims from entering the US" He asked that immigration from certain countries be temporarily halted, to introduce a proper vetting process. Your highly emotional reasoning (I am "apologising for his bigotry"?) makes me rest my case.
- foldr 10y ago
  I’m surprised that you’re making such a brazen attempt to rewrite history. He was recorded calling for a complete ban on all Muslims entering the US. Were you really not aware of this? You quoted his "what the hell is going on" words from this video clip, so I think you must have seen it, and I think you must have been aware of what he actually said. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2015/dec/08/donald-trump-calls-for-complete-ban-on-muslims-entering-the-us-video https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2015/dec/08/donald...
  - dang 10y ago
    Please stop, both of you. HN is no place for political spats, and you've both crossed into incivility.
    - foldr 10y ago
      You can't really complain about political discussions occurring in this context. We're commenting on a link to an article about Peter Thiel speaking at the Republican convention. If you don't want political discussions on the site (which is fine), you should just remove this topic altogether. When someone says something that's flatly untrue on HN, I think it's appropriate to correct that. There is no reason why Trump or his supporters should get a free pass to rewrite history without being challenged on it. If, however, it is your view that there are certain political ideologies or candidates which have a special "protected status" on HN, then I will moderate my comments in future accordingly. I did not think that there was any such policy, though.