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This is the what society sells people who are in the upper middle or just plain upper classes. what about all the outreach that (especially public) universitie

This is the what society sells people who are in the upper middle or just plain upper classes. what about all the outreach that (especially public) universities do to encourage middle-class and lower-class americans to all attend a 4-year college? i don't think college in the US is something that's exclusively sold to rich kids

Qz 17y ago
It's not just sold to rich kids -- but there's also an implication that, for a non-rich person, going to college can enable you to move out of your income class.
kiba 17y ago
People think there are opportunities in field where there are none. Said people found out that it isn't the case. The university system may have lied to them. Their parents may be mistaken, etc. The system may indeed need fundamental reform or it may not. Even if the system needs to be reformed, it may just be impossible for you to agitate change. Whatever reason for the failure, it's not the end of the world. People need to keep hanging in there, and forge a new path for themselves. If others are coming to help you, that's good. If not, just solider on. Be attached to nothing. Pick yourself up and move forward. Don't expect other people to help you. If they do, be sure to pay them back in the future. That's the advice I am taking for myself if things ever go really bad. I decided not to go to college, and will probably be kicked out by my parents for not doing what they asked of me. I don't know how to make a living, much less find a place to live. I probably need health insurance to survive. It look grim as a situation. I am sure I will figure out something and make it.
aliston 17y ago
What is the purpose of college? If the aim of attending college is to have a credential which will lead to a job post-graduation, then we ought to axe about 2/3rds of humanities majors. If the aim is to pursue knowledge for knowledge sake and "learning how to think," WHILE simultaneously building a resume and connections, the case can be made more easily for things like journalism school. It sounds to me like the author focused too heavily on a belief in the intrinsic value of the journalism degree... why not launch your journalism career while in school?
SamAtt 17y ago
I don't think that has the impact that you think it does. I'm not saying I believe this now but the one of the first things I learned in life is that rich people will lie to you. They feel guilty about being where they are so they'll tell you that you can be like them when in fact they'll never really accept you. You're probably right. There are some poor people who work to send their kids to college thinking that it will solve all their kid's problems. But I think most know better and so I think a lot of that outreach falls on deaf ears. (Which incidentally isn't to say my parents didn't encourage me to go to college. Because much of society has set "having a degree" up as a litmus test for "is smart enough to have a career". But they made sure I knew enough to learn from my professors expertise while not adopting their flawed valued system)
- pw0ncakes 17y ago
  when in fact they'll never really accept you. This is why we need to get busy fixing society.

Qz 17y ago

It's not just sold to rich kids -- but there's also an implication that, for a non-rich person, going to college can enable you to move out of your income class.

kiba 17y ago

People think there are opportunities in field where there are none. Said people found out that it isn't the case. The university system may have lied to them. Their parents may be mistaken, etc. The system may indeed need fundamental reform or it may not. Even if the system needs to be reformed, it may just be impossible for you to agitate change. Whatever reason for the failure, it's not the end of the world. People need to keep hanging in there, and forge a new path for themselves. If others are coming to help you, that's good. If not, just solider on. Be attached to nothing. Pick yourself up and move forward. Don't expect other people to help you. If they do, be sure to pay them back in the future. That's the advice I am taking for myself if things ever go really bad. I decided not to go to college, and will probably be kicked out by my parents for not doing what they asked of me. I don't know how to make a living, much less find a place to live. I probably need health insurance to survive. It look grim as a situation. I am sure I will figure out something and make it.

aliston 17y ago

What is the purpose of college? If the aim of attending college is to have a credential which will lead to a job post-graduation, then we ought to axe about 2/3rds of humanities majors. If the aim is to pursue knowledge for knowledge sake and "learning how to think," WHILE simultaneously building a resume and connections, the case can be made more easily for things like journalism school. It sounds to me like the author focused too heavily on a belief in the intrinsic value of the journalism degree... why not launch your journalism career while in school?

SamAtt 17y ago

I don't think that has the impact that you think it does. I'm not saying I believe this now but the one of the first things I learned in life is that rich people will lie to you. They feel guilty about being where they are so they'll tell you that you can be like them when in fact they'll never really accept you. You're probably right. There are some poor people who work to send their kids to college thinking that it will solve all their kid's problems. But I think most know better and so I think a lot of that outreach falls on deaf ears. (Which incidentally isn't to say my parents didn't encourage me to go to college. Because much of society has set "having a degree" up as a litmus test for "is smart enough to have a career". But they made sure I knew enough to learn from my professors expertise while not adopting their flawed valued system)

pw0ncakes 17y ago
when in fact they'll never really accept you. This is why we need to get busy fixing society.